Applicant doesn't want to provide social security number

Applicant doesn't want to provide social security number

Rental Property Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 139 posts · 140 votes

I have two applicants (they are friends) who want to move in with a nanny for one of the applicant's child. They love the place and we like them and think it will be a good fit. The issue is they don't feel comfortable with providing their social security numbers and we don't feel comfortable accepting an applicant without one. We processed their application through Corelogic but the company hid the ssn. The tenanta said if we can agree on liability in case of identity theft they would be ok with providing their ssns.

Everything seemed to be moving along just fine until the ssn issue. With everything going on in this day and age with rules and regulations, I don't feel comfortable proceeding. Is a social security number necessary and can anyone provide liability language or direct me to a website that has this type of language?

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Rental Property Investor · The Vampire State · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
5y

Tell them if they are uncomfortable giving you their SSN, imagine how uncomfortable it makes YOU feel handing over stewardship to a 6-figure asset to such a party.  This is part of life and the world they live in.  If they object, they can buy their own property (and wait for their lender to require same).

Frankly, in my opinion, this is a peek into the type of tenant they will be - challenging you at every turn.  I would pass on these folks.  A tiger doesn't change its stripes.  Not worth it.

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  • Property Manager · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 729 posts · 596 votes
    5y

    @Jasmine Hieke

    Move on to the next applicant. They provide the information to protect you and your investment. You have no control if a credit bureau gets hacked and gives up their ssn. And it is much more likely they may have a stolen or bad ssn than someone gets their ssn from you.

  • Rental Property Investor · Portland OR · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    It sounds like they provided their SS number to the screening company. You should ask for a copy of their IDs, but unless you have a way to guarantee their ss# wont get stolen I would not press it. 

    For example my online applications dont show me the SS#, but it is used to do a background check...  this is pretty standard IMO... 

    ETA check your local laws as it may stipulate how a SS# is to be managed and who can require one etc  

    for those saying you must get the SS# you might check your local laws and read this https://cozy.co/blog/do-landlo...

  • Rental Property Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 139 posts · 140 votes
    5y

    @Jonathan G. They provided their DL, pay stubs, references, filled out the application and completed the information needed for screening. One works at a nonprofit and the other works and has her own business. Their incomes allow them to qualify. I recommend the cleaners we use and they want to use them which to me is a very good thing. They have a good rental score (corelogic didn't provide a credit score just a transunion rental score which looked good to me).

    They both applied and signed separate agreements. Our father will be living in the house in a separate suite and take care of the grounds.

    Overall, I am ok with having all the information I have plus the last for of their ssns.

  • Rental Property Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 139 posts · 140 votes
    5y

    @Mary M. Which screening company do you use?

  • Rental Property Investor · Portland OR · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Jasmine H.:

    @Mary M. Which screening company do you use?

    https://www.myrental.com/

  • Real Estate Agent · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2014 · 486 posts · 303 votes
    5y

    @Jasmine Hieke definitely a deal breaker.

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    Investor · Bethlehem, PA · Member since 2016 · 929 posts · 951 votes
    5y

    @Jasmine Hieke stay true to your standards and requirements. You’ll find headaches and issues are almost 99% caused by breaking your own standards.

    Move on to the next applicant. Hopefully there’s plenty of other qualified candidates lined up waiting to rent from you.

  • Real Estate Agent · New York City · Member since 2020 · 820 posts · 641 votes
    5y

    I would be wary - recourse against nonpayment is very important. Especially in this current climate. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Jasmine H.:

    I have two applicants (they are friends) who want to move in with a nanny for one of the applicant's child. They love the place and we like them and think it will be a good fit. The issue is they don't feel comfortable with providing their social security numbers and we don't feel comfortable accepting an applicant without one. We processed their application through Corelogic but the company hid the ssn. The tenanta said if we can agree on liability in case of identity theft they would be ok with providing their ssns.

    Everything seemed to be moving along just fine until the ssn issue. With everything going on in this day and age with rules and regulations, I don't feel comfortable proceeding. Is a social security number necessary and can anyone provide liability language or direct me to a website that has this type of language?

     They are difficult. Deny them, don't give them a second thought.

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    agree @Jerry Lucker  100%, if the applicants are uncomfortable giving an SSN, they don't rent from me.

  • Rental Property Investor · Portland OR · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    It amazes me how many people did not actually read/understand what the OP posted. 

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