Are any Landlords enrolled in the new US government Rental Assistance Program? I read some Landlords do not want to participate with their Tenants because of required financial information/disclosures to the government. Does anyone know why or what info they require from Landlords?
Here in Texas they’ll pay anything that’s past due and up to the next three months. It’s all one lump sum and from what I can tell the only stipulation is that you can’t evict during the months that have been paid unless it’s for safety or criminal reasons and then you have to pAy the money back.
I’ve qualified for the state program, the program from the city of Houston and harris county, and my usual hopwa grant. I have 13 months of aid money just sitting there but the landlord won’t take it. It never would have been needed in the first place if he hadn’t made me transfer payment to him in a sketchy way that caused my bank to freeze my account for three weeks.
after that he just stopped taking money from me, got angry when I tried to have the hopwa program pay him what was at the time only two weeks late, and directed his bank to ban me from doing business or making deposits.
how here it is almost April and the $455 that I was ready and able to pay him on January 4, as well as she $800 for January has ballooned into $2855...soon to be $3455.
the frustrating part is that I’ve had the money to pay him each month and still do. He’s retaliating and being petty for no reason. So I’m sure there must be a few landlords out there who are doing the same.
frankly I think it’s stupid and hypocritical to complain for months about the moratorium and protections for renters and how there’s no relief or financial assistance for landlords, and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it. That just shows that for some landlords it never really was about the money at all it was about the power and the sense of superiority they felt. And they’ll spend all that money to evict otherwise good people, ruining their credit and their futures all for judgements they’ll never collect on, and then find themselves facing vacant units when no one is able to meet their criteria now.
as for my landlord, he could have had easy money coming in guaranteed for at least 13 months and when it ran out, I’d be making $45,000 a year as a paramedic. And we would never have bothered him. I would have simply deposited the rent every month like usual and we would have never had to interact unless it were an emergency.
instead, he’s now lost the $3455, has to pay to take me to court for an eviction case he’s going to lose, plus he’s going to have to pay to either settle or fight my lawsuit—and then likely be paying me something.
I don’t normally believe in such things but Karma does repay people in kind.
"and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it."
No LLs I know are whining about not getting government money. They HAVE 'whined' about their property rights being stripped by the government via eviction bans. So yeah, if the government is going to defacto seize my property and make me house people on my dime, then they better pay for it.
We've taken the rent money but I'd just assume not. There is a ton of BS paperwork that my team has had to do to get the rent $. When we never signed up to have the government has a tenant.
We entered into a contract with the TENANT. We provide housing, you pay us each month. Period. Some people don't like to deal with the government and their extra work. And if they don't want to deal with it, that's their damn right.
And not sure why you think he's going to lose his eviction case. A property owner doesn't HAVE to accept rental assistance to get an eviction. I sit in on zoom cases ALL THE TIME. I hear the judge ask if they want to participate in the eviction diversion program. The LL says "no", the judge says they can come back and get their WRIT in a week.
So if you're betting on winning your case, I hope you have a plan B.
This program is federally funded by state or locally administered. I don't see why there would be a concern signing disclosures or sharing financials, unless you are trying to scam the system. If a tenant owes you money due to COVID hardship, you should absolutely work with the tenant and the government to get payment. Refusing to let a tenant use assistance, then continuing to try to collect money is crappy. Good luck in eviction court when the judge hears that you refused to let the tenant use assistance - especially in CA.
Do you have specifics on what is required or are you just citing some "word of mouth" hearsay?
Hi @Billy Bob Here is a good resource I found per state. Since my tenant is in the Fairfax County, VA, I was able to apply for the landlord assistance program. See the link below to find out what your state has. Good luck!
I would rather take 90% than nothing but from what I found in ky is they pay 90% of what is owed and you have to forgive 10%. That doesn’t seem fair but I like those odds better than trying to collect on my own and a collection agency will charge more. I could see that as a reason a stubborn person wouldn’t take it but they are most likely only hurting themselves in the long run. As far as disclosure though I disclose it all in schedule E so there’s nothing to find they won’t get by next April anyway but I can see someone who is dishonest on their taxes. There was talk a while back that in some areas by taking assistance you are agreeing not to raise rent for a specified period of time but I don’t know if it gained traction.
Here in Texas they’ll pay anything that’s past due and up to the next three months. It’s all one lump sum and from what I can tell the only stipulation is that you can’t evict during the months that have been paid unless it’s for safety or criminal reasons and then you have to pAy the money back.
I’ve qualified for the state program, the program from the city of Houston and harris county, and my usual hopwa grant. I have 13 months of aid money just sitting there but the landlord won’t take it. It never would have been needed in the first place if he hadn’t made me transfer payment to him in a sketchy way that caused my bank to freeze my account for three weeks.
after that he just stopped taking money from me, got angry when I tried to have the hopwa program pay him what was at the time only two weeks late, and directed his bank to ban me from doing business or making deposits.
how here it is almost April and the $455 that I was ready and able to pay him on January 4, as well as she $800 for January has ballooned into $2855...soon to be $3455.
the frustrating part is that I’ve had the money to pay him each month and still do. He’s retaliating and being petty for no reason. So I’m sure there must be a few landlords out there who are doing the same.
frankly I think it’s stupid and hypocritical to complain for months about the moratorium and protections for renters and how there’s no relief or financial assistance for landlords, and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it. That just shows that for some landlords it never really was about the money at all it was about the power and the sense of superiority they felt. And they’ll spend all that money to evict otherwise good people, ruining their credit and their futures all for judgements they’ll never collect on, and then find themselves facing vacant units when no one is able to meet their criteria now.
as for my landlord, he could have had easy money coming in guaranteed for at least 13 months and when it ran out, I’d be making $45,000 a year as a paramedic. And we would never have bothered him. I would have simply deposited the rent every month like usual and we would have never had to interact unless it were an emergency.
instead, he’s now lost the $3455, has to pay to take me to court for an eviction case he’s going to lose, plus he’s going to have to pay to either settle or fight my lawsuit—and then likely be paying me something.
I don’t normally believe in such things but Karma does repay people in kind.
"and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it."
No LLs I know are whining about not getting government money. They HAVE 'whined' about their property rights being stripped by the government via eviction bans. So yeah, if the government is going to defacto seize my property and make me house people on my dime, then they better pay for it.
We've taken the rent money but I'd just assume not. There is a ton of BS paperwork that my team has had to do to get the rent $. When we never signed up to have the government has a tenant.
We entered into a contract with the TENANT. We provide housing, you pay us each month. Period. Some people don't like to deal with the government and their extra work. And if they don't want to deal with it, that's their damn right.
And not sure why you think he's going to lose his eviction case. A property owner doesn't HAVE to accept rental assistance to get an eviction. I sit in on zoom cases ALL THE TIME. I hear the judge ask if they want to participate in the eviction diversion program. The LL says "no", the judge says they can come back and get their WRIT in a week.
So if you're betting on winning your case, I hope you have a plan B.
It was not "word of mouth" hearsay. I read it on Fox news over the weekend. They said many LLs were not participating because of paperwork or "financial disclosures". The article did not go into further detail. It's all going on your schedule E and if your Tenant is behind, then I don't see why some LLs would not agree to participate.
Here in Texas they’ll pay anything that’s past due and up to the next three months. It’s all one lump sum and from what I can tell the only stipulation is that you can’t evict during the months that have been paid unless it’s for safety or criminal reasons and then you have to pAy the money back.
I’ve qualified for the state program, the program from the city of Houston and harris county, and my usual hopwa grant. I have 13 months of aid money just sitting there but the landlord won’t take it. It never would have been needed in the first place if he hadn’t made me transfer payment to him in a sketchy way that caused my bank to freeze my account for three weeks.
after that he just stopped taking money from me, got angry when I tried to have the hopwa program pay him what was at the time only two weeks late, and directed his bank to ban me from doing business or making deposits.
how here it is almost April and the $455 that I was ready and able to pay him on January 4, as well as she $800 for January has ballooned into $2855...soon to be $3455.
the frustrating part is that I’ve had the money to pay him each month and still do. He’s retaliating and being petty for no reason. So I’m sure there must be a few landlords out there who are doing the same.
frankly I think it’s stupid and hypocritical to complain for months about the moratorium and protections for renters and how there’s no relief or financial assistance for landlords, and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it. That just shows that for some landlords it never really was about the money at all it was about the power and the sense of superiority they felt. And they’ll spend all that money to evict otherwise good people, ruining their credit and their futures all for judgements they’ll never collect on, and then find themselves facing vacant units when no one is able to meet their criteria now.
as for my landlord, he could have had easy money coming in guaranteed for at least 13 months and when it ran out, I’d be making $45,000 a year as a paramedic. And we would never have bothered him. I would have simply deposited the rent every month like usual and we would have never had to interact unless it were an emergency.
instead, he’s now lost the $3455, has to pay to take me to court for an eviction case he’s going to lose, plus he’s going to have to pay to either settle or fight my lawsuit—and then likely be paying me something.
I don’t normally believe in such things but Karma does repay people in kind.
"and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it."
No LLs I know are whining about not getting government money. They HAVE 'whined' about their property rights being stripped by the government via eviction bans. So yeah, if the government is going to defacto seize my property and make me house people on my dime, then they better pay for it.
We've taken the rent money but I'd just assume not. There is a ton of BS paperwork that my team has had to do to get the rent $. When we never signed up to have the government has a tenant.
We entered into a contract with the TENANT. We provide housing, you pay us each month. Period. Some people don't like to deal with the government and their extra work. And if they don't want to deal with it, that's their damn right.
And not sure why you think he's going to lose his eviction case. A property owner doesn't HAVE to accept rental assistance to get an eviction. I sit in on zoom cases ALL THE TIME. I hear the judge ask if they want to participate in the eviction diversion program. The LL says "no", the judge says they can come back and get their WRIT in a week.
So if you're betting on winning your case, I hope you have a plan B.
He’s not going to lose because of the rental assistance. Though it will seem odd that he didn’t want to accept my hopwa but he signed up two of the other houses for the county rent relief program.
he’s going to lose because he sent me a defective Notice, tried to intimidate to leave with less than 24 hours, is leaving all the water pipes broken to try to make us leave, terminated our tenancy after I told him I spoke to a lawyer, and has made several comments to us and to neighbors that strongly suggest his problem the entire time has been that we are a married same sex couple.
Everyone loses in this miserable situation regardless of the legal outcome.
“Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.” Mark Twain
Here in Texas they’ll pay anything that’s past due and up to the next three months. It’s all one lump sum and from what I can tell the only stipulation is that you can’t evict during the months that have been paid unless it’s for safety or criminal reasons and then you have to pAy the money back.
I’ve qualified for the state program, the program from the city of Houston and harris county, and my usual hopwa grant. I have 13 months of aid money just sitting there but the landlord won’t take it. It never would have been needed in the first place if he hadn’t made me transfer payment to him in a sketchy way that caused my bank to freeze my account for three weeks.
after that he just stopped taking money from me, got angry when I tried to have the hopwa program pay him what was at the time only two weeks late, and directed his bank to ban me from doing business or making deposits.
how here it is almost April and the $455 that I was ready and able to pay him on January 4, as well as she $800 for January has ballooned into $2855...soon to be $3455.
the frustrating part is that I’ve had the money to pay him each month and still do. He’s retaliating and being petty for no reason. So I’m sure there must be a few landlords out there who are doing the same.
frankly I think it’s stupid and hypocritical to complain for months about the moratorium and protections for renters and how there’s no relief or financial assistance for landlords, and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it. That just shows that for some landlords it never really was about the money at all it was about the power and the sense of superiority they felt. And they’ll spend all that money to evict otherwise good people, ruining their credit and their futures all for judgements they’ll never collect on, and then find themselves facing vacant units when no one is able to meet their criteria now.
as for my landlord, he could have had easy money coming in guaranteed for at least 13 months and when it ran out, I’d be making $45,000 a year as a paramedic. And we would never have bothered him. I would have simply deposited the rent every month like usual and we would have never had to interact unless it were an emergency.
instead, he’s now lost the $3455, has to pay to take me to court for an eviction case he’s going to lose, plus he’s going to have to pay to either settle or fight my lawsuit—and then likely be paying me something.
I don’t normally believe in such things but Karma does repay people in kind.
"and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it."
No LLs I know are whining about not getting government money. They HAVE 'whined' about their property rights being stripped by the government via eviction bans. So yeah, if the government is going to defacto seize my property and make me house people on my dime, then they better pay for it.
We've taken the rent money but I'd just assume not. There is a ton of BS paperwork that my team has had to do to get the rent $. When we never signed up to have the government has a tenant.
We entered into a contract with the TENANT. We provide housing, you pay us each month. Period. Some people don't like to deal with the government and their extra work. And if they don't want to deal with it, that's their damn right.
And not sure why you think he's going to lose his eviction case. A property owner doesn't HAVE to accept rental assistance to get an eviction. I sit in on zoom cases ALL THE TIME. I hear the judge ask if they want to participate in the eviction diversion program. The LL says "no", the judge says they can come back and get their WRIT in a week.
So if you're betting on winning your case, I hope you have a plan B.
He’s not going to lose because of the rental assistance. Though it will seem odd that he didn’t want to accept my hopwa but he signed up two of the other houses for the county rent relief program.
he’s going to lose because he sent me a defective Notice, tried to intimidate to leave with less than 24 hours, is leaving all the water pipes broken to try to make us leave, terminated our tenancy after I told him I spoke to a lawyer, and has made several comments to us and to neighbors that strongly suggest his problem the entire time has been that we are a married same sex couple.
I see. He's trying to get rid of you only because you're gay. Uh huh. Yup. Got it.
I don't come on here to fight and argue so I'll just say "good luck" and leave it at that.
Here in Texas they’ll pay anything that’s past due and up to the next three months. It’s all one lump sum and from what I can tell the only stipulation is that you can’t evict during the months that have been paid unless it’s for safety or criminal reasons and then you have to pAy the money back.
I’ve qualified for the state program, the program from the city of Houston and harris county, and my usual hopwa grant. I have 13 months of aid money just sitting there but the landlord won’t take it. It never would have been needed in the first place if he hadn’t made me transfer payment to him in a sketchy way that caused my bank to freeze my account for three weeks.
after that he just stopped taking money from me, got angry when I tried to have the hopwa program pay him what was at the time only two weeks late, and directed his bank to ban me from doing business or making deposits.
how here it is almost April and the $455 that I was ready and able to pay him on January 4, as well as she $800 for January has ballooned into $2855...soon to be $3455.
the frustrating part is that I’ve had the money to pay him each month and still do. He’s retaliating and being petty for no reason. So I’m sure there must be a few landlords out there who are doing the same.
frankly I think it’s stupid and hypocritical to complain for months about the moratorium and protections for renters and how there’s no relief or financial assistance for landlords, and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it. That just shows that for some landlords it never really was about the money at all it was about the power and the sense of superiority they felt. And they’ll spend all that money to evict otherwise good people, ruining their credit and their futures all for judgements they’ll never collect on, and then find themselves facing vacant units when no one is able to meet their criteria now.
as for my landlord, he could have had easy money coming in guaranteed for at least 13 months and when it ran out, I’d be making $45,000 a year as a paramedic. And we would never have bothered him. I would have simply deposited the rent every month like usual and we would have never had to interact unless it were an emergency.
instead, he’s now lost the $3455, has to pay to take me to court for an eviction case he’s going to lose, plus he’s going to have to pay to either settle or fight my lawsuit—and then likely be paying me something.
I don’t normally believe in such things but Karma does repay people in kind.
"and then when they finally start a program that does just that—-pay the landlords the money they’ve been whining about—to refuse to take it."
No LLs I know are whining about not getting government money. They HAVE 'whined' about their property rights being stripped by the government via eviction bans. So yeah, if the government is going to defacto seize my property and make me house people on my dime, then they better pay for it.
We've taken the rent money but I'd just assume not. There is a ton of BS paperwork that my team has had to do to get the rent $. When we never signed up to have the government has a tenant.
We entered into a contract with the TENANT. We provide housing, you pay us each month. Period. Some people don't like to deal with the government and their extra work. And if they don't want to deal with it, that's their damn right.
And not sure why you think he's going to lose his eviction case. A property owner doesn't HAVE to accept rental assistance to get an eviction. I sit in on zoom cases ALL THE TIME. I hear the judge ask if they want to participate in the eviction diversion program. The LL says "no", the judge says they can come back and get their WRIT in a week.
So if you're betting on winning your case, I hope you have a plan B.
He’s not going to lose because of the rental assistance. Though it will seem odd that he didn’t want to accept my hopwa but he signed up two of the other houses for the county rent relief program.
he’s going to lose because he sent me a defective Notice, tried to intimidate to leave with less than 24 hours, is leaving all the water pipes broken to try to make us leave, terminated our tenancy after I told him I spoke to a lawyer, and has made several comments to us and to neighbors that strongly suggest his problem the entire time has been that we are a married same sex couple.
I see. He's trying to get rid of you only because you're gay. Uh huh. Yup. Got it.
I don't come on here to fight and argue so I'll just say "good luck" and leave it at that.
I have his voicemail where he tells me that “my relationship isn’t working out for him”. The neighbor that he pays to look after the houses flat out told me that she told him we were roommates because “mr. Louis don’t like all that other.” And also told us he was mad at her for lying to him because if he knew he would never have given the keys “to that kind of people.”
he’s accepted the county’s rental assistance program for two of our neighbors—he even registered and did all the work for them so they didn’t babe to worry about it and he would get the money. But he wouldn’t accept any assistance or payment from the lgbt center that handles my hopwa casework and everything else.
he suddenly changed the method of payment after I made a comment about my husband recovering from surgery, and that method caused my bank to flag my account and the transaction for investigation for fraud and money laundering.
none of that sounds like it might be a little sketchy? Because the county and city fha office thought it did. As did the reporter who interviewed me and wants to do a story when this is all over. And so have four different lawyers who are all trying to convince me to hire them.
So help me understand: you’re going to fight in court for the right to continue to give money to and live in the property of someone you consider a bigot?
when a person or company takes a political position I feel is a slap in my face you know what I do? I say “see ya. You’re not getting my money”. If someone didn’t like who I was I can’t imagine going to the government and getting them to force that person to continue in what should be a voluntary transaction between two people.
If I read between the lines on this it sounds like this tenant may not have anywhere else to go. Your landlord had you on a month to month lease and served you an eviction notice, refuses to take your money, refuses to accept a government aid program that will keep you in the property, he has insulted you and yet "on principal" you say you still want to stay in the property? The landlord has even gone out of his way to help other people stay in their units by helping them fill out the rental assistance paperwork, but he does not want you as a tenant with a similar program?
If I was a renter there is absolutely no way i would want to rent from that landlord. He is literally opening the door for you and saying, please leave.
Now if you do not have anywhere else to go because of your circumstances and that is the real reason you are fighting to stay in the property then that is different because you are fighting for your survival and in various ways we all can understand that.
However, if you are fighting this "on principal" then it should be even easier for you. Take all this aid money that you have and have coming, find another place to live, pay the rent and have one of the 4 lawyers that are begging to take your case help you out on this case while you are living peacefully somewhere else.
Simple.