I still owe some mortgage but have enough cash to cover
It is amazing how little most people really need to break out of the rat race, but unfortunately, they get sucked up into wholesaling and flipping meanwhile totally losing site of why they got into real estate in the first place. They basically leave one job for another that might have bigger checks, but also comes with waaaay more stress.
A repeat consulting client of mine sat down with me and it was the same story I've heard before;
Client: I made over $100K flipping houses, but I still feel broke!
Me: Taxes and overhead are killing you huh?
Client: I pay so much in taxes and all my first quarter profits will go towards overhead.
Me: How many rentals you own?
Client: None...
Me: Time to get yourself some rentals.
When I got into real estate, the first thing I did before I bought a house was to analyze a year's worth of expenses to see what it would take to set me free. $4,400/month was all I needed. I've since doubled that a few times just for insurance, but once the primary residence is paid off, there isn't much else left to pay for.
Real Estate Broker 路 Canton, GA 路 Member since 2010 路 15k+ posts 路 11k+ votes
10y
I am not counting on anything for social security or the government as they can't balance 10 cents much less a trillion dollar budget.
What's left of that program ( if anything ) will be a shell by that age for me and they will have likely raised the numbers into the 70's for retirement.
Good thing I love being my own boss as a commercial real estate principal broker and investor. When I get into 60's or 70's I might scale back some but would still do what I love.
Mid 60's to 70's is 25 to 30 years down the line for me so not telling what the government looks like then................... : )
What can affect an investor is what they make with their business or job. If you make 50k a year then you might have very little to get started. If your job throws off 300k, 500k etc. a year then you can snowball much faster.
Once you hit so many properties lenders will look at track record and your global cash flow so having a J-O-B becomes less of an issue as liquidity and net worth is built up.
Atlanta, GA 路 Member since 2014 路 221 posts 路 109 votes
10y
Joel
Great points. I'm sure you read 4 hour work week , if not you need to
However, your generstion needs to learn everything is not always a passion
I have much to share on this
Probably will write a book
I'm really a writer, academic by trade
That forced myself to work against my passion
I became a electrician heating and air
I can do Sheetrock flooring tiling
Do trim work
I forced myself to learn intrinsic value so I would not have to pay contractors and eat profits that are so vital to retain in early stages
Most people are like me
They are just ordinary
They can't create corporations and syndications of raising capital
Your generation has many good ideas
But the falsity of always following passion
And not understanding of developing left hand in basketball is self defeating and propels disallusionment and neglects to look at one self long and hard in mirror
Rental Property Investor 路 Sioux Falls, SD 路 Member since 2015 路 9k+ posts 路 18k+ votes
10y
@Daniel Peavey I read your comments about @Joel Owens mentioning his generation needs to learn not everything is a passion. I peg Joel at around 40 years old based on him being 30 years from 70. I am similar age and I believe we would be considered generation X. I found it interesting you made that observation about his (my) generation and I am just curious what you mean? Gen X are known for being independent workers, entrepreneurs and hard working. Not known as the "participation trophy" generation that lives with our parents. Maybe we do follow our passion but not in a flaky way - we build careers and businesses. I am not trying to turn this into a debate about generations, but I am interested in what advice you are trying to give.
By the way, I must be the only person in the world that read the four hour work week and was underwhelmed. I kept waiting for it to amaze me and never felt it.
Atlanta, GA 路 Member since 2014 路 221 posts 路 109 votes
10y
Joe,
No problem. Discussing ideas are valuable.
Children are raised today to follow passion, which is cool. My passion was writing and academics
The very smart move I made was to leave my passion. I developed skills, I.e. Went to electrical apprenticeship, worked very hard, against natural inclinations because that's what market demanded
Ironically, I will now, after many years of wilderness training, begin to write.
I am just ordinary guy that made it
I understand derivatives, options, syndicates and if my old man gave me that mindset at 18, I would have created corporation and raised capital and been another trump
It didn't happen. My children are second generation, my son is 32 and has hearing and air company, so they really benefit
When I bought my first house, I worked 9 months in evenings and weekends
My passion is not Sheetrock
But learning to do it saved thousands
As common guys, we make money working overtime. Many young like their free time to much
We are a apprentice, American idle celebrity culture and must be careful not just listening to success stories without knowing true cost
De Pere, WI 路 Member since 2016 路 83 posts 路 39 votes
10y
Congratulations! What are your goals over the next 5-10 years? Anything that you want to be doing that you haven't had a chance to? Start on your retirement early? Or work another year or two to fund some major splurge of a dream? Maybe drop down to part-time... give yourself some extra time to figure out a new hobby or your next move as well as allow some transition out of the workforce and work mindset. Whatever you choose Godspeed!
Hollywood, FL 路 Member since 2015 路 65 posts 路 11 votes
10y
Congratulations Daniel you have reached the goal for us all. You caught the dragon. You have a full life ahead of you that you can enjoy to the fullest
Tel Aviv, Israel 路 Member since 2014 路 53 posts 路 10 votes
10y
Congrats, it's always uplifting to see real life success stories.
i can share that just having this first taste of income not from your own labor is indeed liberating.
i would like to throw in the mix that "retirement" is not necessarily meant to spend all your day doing nothing. it's a great time to develop as a human being and as a person. learn new skills - painting, playing a music instrument, surfing whatever...
the real goal is not to drop out of life, it's to increase your level in life.
hope this helps throwing some ideas into the new found freedom