Real Estate Agent · Hudson, MA · Member since 2015 · 3 posts · 4 votes
Greetings All!
So here is the scoop. I have $20,000 cash and was thinking of investing in real estate somehow. The issue is I am not sure how to use that money in real estate. Do I become partners with someone and both of us invest cash and time and we get a return that we split? Or do I loan out just the cash and get a return on that? or should I buy a super cheap run-down fixer-upper? Maybe there is another path altogether, but that's why I am asking here. I am located in the Boston area.
IF anyone has any suggestions on how I can smartly go about investing this money, I am all ears. My goal overall is to make some kind of return on the money wether I own and hold onto a piece of the real estate or not.
Real Estate Investor · Springfield, MO · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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@Anthony Sorrentino, I'm glad to see you're thinking about alternatives to owning a house outright, because as others have said, $20K will barely get you a 5% down payment on MA property in some areas.
There are TONS of ways to make money in "real estate." Most folks here are limited to thinking about owning doors, but you can do a lot. For example...
Strategy 1: Can you RENT a home for $1,000 / month, with permission to sub-lease, and set it up via short-term rental? This is called "arbitrage" or as some call it "the spread" method of investing. You lease for $1000, then rent it out to short-term corporate tenants ($1800/month), or for 3 months at a time to an insurance company looking to temporarily house their clients who lost their home in a fire ($2,000/month) or AirBnB/VRBO (vacation rentals) for $150/night ($3000 per month @ 20 days occupied) + cleaning fees. The repairs, taxes, and insurance stay on the owner. Your $20K gives you 20 months + if you reinvest the profits you can keep on churning that money and extending the deal.
Strategy 2: Open-air storage. Can you find a small commercial lost (1/2 acre) and put a fence around it, then lease it out to folks who will pay $100/month to store their boat, RV, camper? You might need more than $20K, but probably not a TON more. Maybe find a partner and each put up 50%....could you do it for $40K?
Strategy 3: Notes. Discount/non-performing notes can often be purchased for 10-30 cents on the dollar, so you could lock up some good 1st position notes on well-located property for not a lot. Then either flip those notes to other investors or hang onto them and foreclose. Takes a lot more specialization, but the good news here is that beause it is harder fewer people are doing it. Less competition....
So there are just a few methods. I bet if you think about it, Google a bit, and talk to folks in the industry you can find a dozen more ways to leverage just those cash funds into a nice return while you work up to owning dirt, sticks and bricks.
Real Estate Investor · Springfield, MO · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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@Anthony Sorrentino, I'm glad to see you're thinking about alternatives to owning a house outright, because as others have said, $20K will barely get you a 5% down payment on MA property in some areas.
There are TONS of ways to make money in "real estate." Most folks here are limited to thinking about owning doors, but you can do a lot. For example...
Strategy 1: Can you RENT a home for $1,000 / month, with permission to sub-lease, and set it up via short-term rental? This is called "arbitrage" or as some call it "the spread" method of investing. You lease for $1000, then rent it out to short-term corporate tenants ($1800/month), or for 3 months at a time to an insurance company looking to temporarily house their clients who lost their home in a fire ($2,000/month) or AirBnB/VRBO (vacation rentals) for $150/night ($3000 per month @ 20 days occupied) + cleaning fees. The repairs, taxes, and insurance stay on the owner. Your $20K gives you 20 months + if you reinvest the profits you can keep on churning that money and extending the deal.
Strategy 2: Open-air storage. Can you find a small commercial lost (1/2 acre) and put a fence around it, then lease it out to folks who will pay $100/month to store their boat, RV, camper? You might need more than $20K, but probably not a TON more. Maybe find a partner and each put up 50%....could you do it for $40K?
Strategy 3: Notes. Discount/non-performing notes can often be purchased for 10-30 cents on the dollar, so you could lock up some good 1st position notes on well-located property for not a lot. Then either flip those notes to other investors or hang onto them and foreclose. Takes a lot more specialization, but the good news here is that beause it is harder fewer people are doing it. Less competition....
So there are just a few methods. I bet if you think about it, Google a bit, and talk to folks in the industry you can find a dozen more ways to leverage just those cash funds into a nice return while you work up to owning dirt, sticks and bricks.
Rental Property Investor · NY MA CT VT MT, MO · Member since 2015 · 200 posts · 116 votes
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@Anthony Sorrentino, yah, I'd go with @Bill Plymouth's idea... or, depending on prices in Hudson, you might be able to house hack on a multi, the best possible thing, I think, for a newbie investor... get an FHA loan (must live in the property for at least a year) on something under $300k with a 3.5% down payment, maybe a duplex or even a single family home... if its a SF, you can rent out bedrooms, you might be able to live for free, and then use it for equity to move on to bigger and better things. a couple of years of appreciation in the Boston area my add nicely to your cash. I just realized that I'm getting about 70% annual return on my initial $50k I put down on a 4 plex, when I figure in appreciation, net cash flow and mortgage paydown!!... other than that, find someone you trust, preferably in an area near you, and partner with them; you might get a much better return on your cash, and learn a boatload in the meantime. THAT would be the best return you could ever get!
Rental Property Investor · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 24 posts · 14 votes
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@Anthony Sorrentino Why not use that money to purchase a cash flowing home in another market? Should be able to find $80K-$100K homes that cash flow SOMEWHERE. This country is a big place and there's always homes to buy. What's that old saying? I've never met somebody who only does 1 deal. It's either zero, or 100. Good luck brother!
I would also look into house hacking , where you can get into the property for low money down, FHA is 3.5% down and you can begin your investing journey
@Anthony Sorrentino Why not use that money to purchase a cash flowing home in another market? Should be able to find $80K-$100K homes that cash flow SOMEWHERE. This country is a big place and there's always homes to buy. What's that old saying? I've never met somebody who only does 1 deal. It's either zero, or 100. Good luck brother!
You can buy cashflowing SFR'S in Indianapolis all day long for 80-100K
Everyone above is giving you great advice. And I was just in your position with that much $$ and I ended up closing on a $92k property in Indianapolis in a B class area. So @Account Closed is 100% correct. Do your due diligence and look for growing markets or house hack in your current market.
Oh and READ READ READ, listen to podcasts, there is way too much free education out there. You started here so that's a good start. Goodluck!
Real Estate Agent · Boston, MA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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So you have two options -
1. Invest in a property that would increase or create a passive income stream - probably an owner occupied property of sorts where you can probably buy something with the max of $500k. This is very doable as you are in a secondary market that has more properties available. I see two families in the $350's and threes in the $450-500 almost daily within driving range of that area. This is a more secure method and allows you to get your feet wet in the rental space and learn about landlording first hand. Your bonus Buyer's Agent commission will help with closing costs as well as small updates when you close.
2. Invest in yourself. What that means is use the $20,000 and invest in your real estate business. The ROI on that will far exceed that of buying a property because you're creating the right vehicle to propel more deals and generate more income. How should you spend it? COACHING. Getting a coach for around $600-1000/month will help you structure your business and create massive success going forward. Now this might take a little time to get going but let's be honest, two deals that you get out of this will pay for the coaching session for your entire year.
I think both vehicles will help you gain more momentum in your future and investing goals. I personally am lucky to be in a position to do both and have gained success quickly. Please feel free to reach out if you need anything else.
Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2018 · 416 posts · 396 votes
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@Eric Graig great question. I have never personally lended money (in a professional sense) before. But, the lender essentially acts as the bank. If they are not paid, they can foreclose on a property. There are legal forms and contracts that you fill out as well to keep everything documented.
Can any hard money or experienced private lenders chime into this one to give a better explanation?
@Steve Bracero quick question on this...so you get the fha loan, live in the home while fixing or whatever....at what point can you rent it if you are looking at sfh?
Lender · Florida Based (48 states Puerto Rico) · Member since 2017 · 321 posts · 121 votes
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@Anthony Sorrentino
Do you already own a property as primary residence? If not, I would use the 20k to buy a 4 unit property with 3.5% down with seller covering all costs. 20k will get you a 571,000 piece of real estate.
Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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Saved up a bit more. You want money for down payment + RESERVES for any repairs. Then do house hack where you put down 3.5% and live in a unit. Add a seller paid closing cost credit to offer.
Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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@Anthony Sorrentino
20k is what I was working with when I bought my first property, a live in duplex. I still have it after moving out years ago and it is one of my top performers. Your market may vary.