HUD delayed financing exception in OKC

HUD delayed financing exception in OKC

Investor · Yukon, OK · Member since 2015 · 41 posts · 48 votes

Hey guys!

I read this article(link below) by @Andrew Syrios and I have talked to several lenders that I know in the area about this. None of them have any experience with this or have even heard about it. The premise is that with the delayed financing exception, you can pull 100% of your purchase + rehab costs back out without waiting the 6 month seasoning period up to 75% LTV. Has anybody in the OKC market used this strategy? Any recommendations for lenders or loan officers that are familiar and comfortable with this strategy?

https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/work-with...

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Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
7y

First, I'm offended that OP would confuse me with @Andrew Syrios. 

ok here is the deal, I have PERFECTED this process and while it is tricky, it's possible to extract 100% of your funds from a deal with no seasoning (minus transaction costs). 

the key here is 3 things: 

1. your ALL-IN cost needs to be 75% of the ARV, because you're going to get a loan for 75% LTV. if you have more than that in the deal, there is no chance. Less is fine, but you'll be leaving money on the table. 75% is perfect

2. you must get an invoice for the contract work and your insurance costs and put them on the HUD-1 with your title company (have them put it way down at the bottom on the 2nd page or as an addendum). Then you'll pay the ENTIRE amount of the purchase and rehab and insurance all at once.

3. you must pay this total amount in YOUR FUNDS. sorry, no hard money, no loans, no borrowed money. They lender will be required to source the funds and it has to be all your money (401k/Heloc are COOL!). Once the total amount is on the HUD-1 and it's paid for, the title company will send out the checks for rehab, and the INSTANT you have a tenant in the building (they will check at appraisal per guidelines) and a signed lease, you can start underwriting.

I have done this multiple time, and the quickest one was completed in a tad over 8 weeks (that's from the day I paid in full, to the day I received all my funds back)

the one big caveat seems to be finding lenders who will participate in this. Instead of telling them your whole process, it might be easier to just ask them if they can do delayed finance and will they finance 100% of what's on line HUD-1 line 120. Then you don't have to explain all the details, though my best practices recommendation is find a lender who really knows this process and is willing to help. There is nothing lender specific about this program, it's all fannie mae so very standardized.

I hope this helps. I know this process can seem a bit  detail intensive at first so I'm always around to help answer questions. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 18 posts · 3 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Alexander Felice:

    First, I'm offended that OP would confuse me with @Andrew Syrios. 

    ok here is the deal, I have PERFECTED this process and while it is tricky, it's possible to extract 100% of your funds from a deal with no seasoning (minus transaction costs). 

    the key here is 3 things: 

    1. your ALL-IN cost needs to be 75% of the ARV, because you're going to get a loan for 75% LTV. if you have more than that in the deal, there is no chance. Less is fine, but you'll be leaving money on the table. 75% is perfect

    2. you must get an invoice for the contract work and your insurance costs and put them on the HUD-1 with your title company (have them put it way down at the bottom on the 2nd page or as an addendum). Then you'll pay the ENTIRE amount of the purchase and rehab and insurance all at once.

    3. you must pay this total amount in YOUR FUNDS. sorry, no hard money, no loans, no borrowed money. They lender will be required to source the funds and it has to be all your money (401k/Heloc are COOL!). Once the total amount is on the HUD-1 and it's paid for, the title company will send out the checks for rehab, and the INSTANT you have a tenant in the building (they will check at appraisal per guidelines) and a signed lease, you can start underwriting.

    I have done this multiple time, and the quickest one was completed in a tad over 8 weeks (that's from the day I paid in full, to the day I received all my funds back)

    the one big caveat seems to be finding lenders who will participate in this. Instead of telling them your whole process, it might be easier to just ask them if they can do delayed finance and will they finance 100% of what's on line HUD-1 line 120. Then you don't have to explain all the details, though my best practices recommendation is find a lender who really knows this process and is willing to help. There is nothing lender specific about this program, it's all fannie mae so very standardized.

    I hope this helps. I know this process can seem a bit  detail intensive at first so I'm always around to help answer questions. 

     Thank you This is exactly What I was looking for.  How do I find a lender to do this?  

  • Lender · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Mark Whittaker

    An investor friendly loan officer will know if their underwriting team will follow this method with delayed financing. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 18 posts · 3 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jerry Padilla:

    @Mark Whittaker

    An investor friendly loan officer will know if their underwriting team will follow this method with delayed financing. 

    Thanks for responding so fast!,  how do I know if a loan officer is investor friendly or not?   Should I just call every bank in town and hope I get an investor friendly loan officer?

  • Lender · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Mark Whittaker

    Most of the loan officers on this site are investor friendly and you can find referrals on this site from other investors as well. If you wanted to call around, you would want to ask for a loan officer that is experienced or focused on investor financing.

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