My Husband and I are just now starting with real estate investing and we  went to a live event this past  weekend put on by Phil Grove and his wife - it was very informative and was very well planned and smooth ( I'm a professional sales person)  it was fun to see the whole sales pitch unfold for the coaching program - knocking out the objections throughout the presentation before they come, building value, taking people into their pain and getting to the WHY , giving information while all at the same time saying everything for a reason without coming off like a salesperson,  and then the cherry on top was  to see how they charge an enormous amount of money to sell a program just to have the students go out and do the marketing to bring him and his team deals to partner on, the big picture of his business was an amazing master mind project - I was really impressed from a sales stand point I felt that it was very smooth and done with class, class because they really did make the event informative which is something that is lacking at most of the meetups I have attended, although most of the info was to train the attendees enough to be able to go out and market to bring in deals for them to partner on - I was actually very  interested in the program but they are asking  a SIGNIFICANT amount of money and were not exactly clear on exactly what you get for it other that the "network"  which he did mention many times that your network is your networth  ;-) . I do believe that training and learning is always good, but there is tons of free info online or in inexpensive courses, I was unsure of what the tools consisted of, but I am a realtor and have mls and can do cma's and math so what else is in the tools? I have a sales background so selling, marketing and negotiating is what I do. You do get 3 websites and some cheap black and white business cards, but I can get that pretty cheap as well , for many 1000's less than the program. So I guess my question is this- has anyone purchased his program or know of anyone who has? If so was it worth it? Exactly what is it that you get that you couldn't have gotten on your own?