How do you mitigate risk while investing in Detroit?

How do you mitigate risk while investing in Detroit?

Natalie AlliePro Member
Member since 2024 · 24 posts · 17 votes

For any investors who are heavily invested in Detroit: I would love some insight on how you mitigate risk as much as possible when investing in the city as it relates to tenant screening, neighborhood selection, vacant property security etc... Thank you!

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Joe HammelBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit, MI · Member since 2018 · 612 posts · 666 votes
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Metro Detroit has what 99% of Real Estate Investors want. Couple hundred bucks a door monthly cash flow, solid ROI, and yes plenty appreciation. (#1 appreciating city 2023)

I personally make well over $100k/yr cash flow from 21 properties here. All of which, I’ve purchased within the last 4 years.

There are 2 types of people who dog on Detroit..

1. People who don't actually own property in Detroit

2. People who did it wrong and weren't able to execute.

If you do it right, it’s arguably the best market to invest.

Purchase: $80k-$130k

Rent: $1100-$1500 (no rent control in MI)

1% rule: .9%-1.4% rule deals

Coc ROI: 4-12%

Total ROI: 20-40%

Cash flow: $50-$250/door (after all expenses and budgeting for maint, capex, vacancy)

Appreciation: 3-10%+ (has been double digit for a decade)

Location: C+, B-

These numbers are based on the "sweet spot" in Metro Detroit. These are largely in the suburbs and some markets within the city. You can find higher ROI (on paper) here and probably in other cities…but the probability of actually collecting rent significantly decreases. Where these numbers are found, there is a very high rate of rent actually being paid.

We have over a dozen Fortune 500 companies just in Metro Detroit with huge Healthcare, Auto, and mortgage industry National footprints. Ford, Rocket mortgage, Beaumont hospitals and more. All complimented with Amazon fulfillment centers, google, and more tech manufacturing jobs.

The bad reputation of “Detroit” comes from OOS investors wanting sub $40,000, D class properties in poor condition, because they pencil out to 2-3% deals on paper. We don’t buy those. That’s step one to mitigating risk in Detroit. Since Detroit varies so much on a block-by-block basis, it’s important to have a strong team in your core four who know the area and can help coach you into the best strategy for your needs.

We have found what works and repeat it as much as funds allow.

Detroit has one the highest rent to price ratios in the country…and we focus on the best balance of price/location within the area.

Here is a picture of my portfolio if you/anyone is curious.

FIRE Realty Team - Keller Williams5377 Reviews
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  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Natalie Allie your covering a lot of issues with your questions!

    Probably best to DM us and set up a chat:)

  • Joe HammelBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit, MI · Member since 2018 · 612 posts · 666 votes
    1y

    Metro Detroit has what 99% of Real Estate Investors want. Couple hundred bucks a door monthly cash flow, solid ROI, and yes plenty appreciation. (#1 appreciating city 2023)

    I personally make well over $100k/yr cash flow from 21 properties here. All of which, I’ve purchased within the last 4 years.

    There are 2 types of people who dog on Detroit..

    1. People who don't actually own property in Detroit

    2. People who did it wrong and weren't able to execute.

    If you do it right, it’s arguably the best market to invest.

    Purchase: $80k-$130k

    Rent: $1100-$1500 (no rent control in MI)

    1% rule: .9%-1.4% rule deals

    Coc ROI: 4-12%

    Total ROI: 20-40%

    Cash flow: $50-$250/door (after all expenses and budgeting for maint, capex, vacancy)

    Appreciation: 3-10%+ (has been double digit for a decade)

    Location: C+, B-

    These numbers are based on the "sweet spot" in Metro Detroit. These are largely in the suburbs and some markets within the city. You can find higher ROI (on paper) here and probably in other cities…but the probability of actually collecting rent significantly decreases. Where these numbers are found, there is a very high rate of rent actually being paid.

    We have over a dozen Fortune 500 companies just in Metro Detroit with huge Healthcare, Auto, and mortgage industry National footprints. Ford, Rocket mortgage, Beaumont hospitals and more. All complimented with Amazon fulfillment centers, google, and more tech manufacturing jobs.

    The bad reputation of “Detroit” comes from OOS investors wanting sub $40,000, D class properties in poor condition, because they pencil out to 2-3% deals on paper. We don’t buy those. That’s step one to mitigating risk in Detroit. Since Detroit varies so much on a block-by-block basis, it’s important to have a strong team in your core four who know the area and can help coach you into the best strategy for your needs.

    We have found what works and repeat it as much as funds allow.

    Detroit has one the highest rent to price ratios in the country…and we focus on the best balance of price/location within the area.

    Here is a picture of my portfolio if you/anyone is curious.

    FIRE Realty Team - Keller Williams5377 Reviews
    • Investor · Howell, MI · Member since 2025 · 28 posts · 12 votes
      1y

      @Joe Hammel This is good! Thank you for sharing! I'm in the Howell area but invest in Howell/Hartland (LTR) and Lansing (mainly MTR). I've stayed away from Detroit after only hearing bad stories but you're making me rethink... 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Ann Arbor, MI · Member since 2022 · 461 posts · 250 votes
    1y

    Hi Natalie from Detroit, MI-

    You asked about mitigating risks when owning investment property in Detroit.

    While no investment is risk free, you certainly can reduce risk by educating yourself and working with an experienced local team.

    Probably the two most important people on that team are your local investor friendly Realtor and property manager.

    They will make sure you are buying in the best areas and make your investment as passive as possible. The property manager will have their own maintenance team or network of preferred contractors to make sure your property is maintained and tenant turnover at a minimum.

    To Your Success!

  • Lender · Nationwide · Member since 2023 · 362 posts · 237 votes
    1y

    I have 8 doors in Detroit and it can be tough at times. I work with my PM to get a minimum credit score (650 or so) and income requirements (3x the rent). Don’t be in a hurry to place a tenant because it much more trouble to place a bad tenant than to keep it vacant. When a property is vacant, I board up all the windows until it’s rented again. Happy to connect and knowledge share. 

  • V.G JasonPro Member
    Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    Mitigating risk is almost the same as any city in the country. Obviously, some have more favorable laws towards landords and some have less, STR regulations, etc.

    You need to risk at look differently than what the normal BPer subscribes to; fomo buying, $5k reserves, minimum down in ****** neighborhood, and underwriting for the best case scenarios.

    The risk can be mitigated through a function, among others, in no order:

    1) What you pay(entry price)
    2) Exit optionality(any entry needs to be evaluated about how you can exit)
    3) Proper insurance and legal coverage(LLC, HOI, lawyer, etc.)
    4) Delegation of systems(property manager, handymans, gardeners, etc.)
    4a) If rehabbing-- delegation of contracted work and actual contracts in place to protect you.
    5) Financial strength-- If you don't rehab the place, you need to have 100% of capex reserves set aside, plus 3-6 months vacancies, and 1-2 months of lead time(to lease). If you rehab it, take capex reserves down to 50-75%.  
    5a) Debt. How much debt is in the deal is a strict function of the risk you're taking. Make no mistake about that, as much as others try to do as little debt as possible and bank on appreciation. Money is not just math, it's behavioral too. If you don't believe me, watch how you behave when you are about to get your first property--emotional.

    I didn't take out things like location, and some other necessities, cause they are all functions of the 1-5a above. Your exit optionality, for example, is a heavy basis behind location.

  • Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2018 · 41 posts · 29 votes
    1y

    @Joe Hammel

    $2800 rent in Farmington Hills? That's ambitious. The ARV seems high in my opinion, but if you're cash flowing positive on your portfolio, good for you. Good luck.

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Amanda Rechsteiner nothing on Joe's portfolio list is in the CITY OF DETROIT.

    They are all in the Ring Cities - inner-ring suburban cities around the City of Detroit.

    The Ring Cities offer investors mostly solid Class B neighborhoods that make great rentals.

    We've got a color-coded map on our website that may be helpful:)

    • Investor · Howell, MI · Member since 2025 · 28 posts · 12 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Drew Sygit:

      @Amanda Rechsteiner nothing on Joe's portfolio list is in the CITY OF DETROIT.

      They are all in the Ring Cities - inner-ring suburban cities around the City of Detroit.

      The Ring Cities offer investors mostly solid Class B neighborhoods that make great rentals.

      We've got a color-coded map on our website that may be helpful:)


       That is true... I just looked at it. However, I do like the purchase prices compared to where I live. Better for cash flow for sure. I have been investing the other way though, around Lansing. Thanks for pointing that out!

  • Specialist · DETROIT · Member since 2019 · 116 posts · 243 votes
    1y

    Hi Natalie! You asked about mitigating risks when owning property in Detroit..

    The biggest factor to help mitigate risk in Detroit for property owners is hands down without a doubt to find TRUSTED BOOTS ON THE GROUND to help you navigate, minimize or eliminate risk. And this goes triple for Out-Of-State investors. Let those with established expertise and learned and earned know how steer the ship for you or with you. My husband and I ran into all sorts of low risk, medium risk and high risk situations buying, rehabbing, tenanting section 8, managing and owning and selling close to 100 properties in the passed 6 years. We actually started off wholesaling and doing BRRR's out of state from California and then moved to Birmingham (20 min from Detroit) and than Darren my husband would drive to and from Detroit every day working 16hrs a day 365 days of the year for 1/2 a decade owning, building, managing section 8 tenants while I helped him on the other side of things and together we weeded through all sorts of risk over the years. All this gruelling work , commitment and consistency though has groomed us into advanced or highly experienced Detroit section 8 property investors/owners/sellers/turnkey providers, operators, managers and BRRRRer's that has enabled us to see risk coming a mile away and than wether we need to steer clear of it all together or perhaps wether it's worth entertaining that risk for reward.

    Your welcome to send a message if you need any other advice on risk in Detroit. Cheers!

  • Lancaster, NY · Member since 2021 · 92 posts · 53 votes
    1y

    Great question—and congrats on exploring the Detroit market!

    While I can’t speak to neighborhood selection or property security, I can offer insight specifically on tenant screening, which plays a big role in risk mitigation—especially in areas where the applicant pool may be more varied.

    Here’s what a thorough tenant screening report should ideally include:

    • ➤ Credit Report – Useful for seeing payment patterns, debt load, and general financial responsibility.

    • ➤ Eviction History – A national eviction search can help identify patterns of non-payment or lease violations.

    • ➤ Criminal Background Check – Includes national, state, and county-level records, along with sex offender registries (where legally allowable).

    • ➤ Judgments & Liens – These are no longer included on any credit report but are still very relevant—especially for spotting unpaid rent or property damage claims filed by past landlords. This data must be pulled from separate databases, and not all screening providers include it.

    • ➤ Income Verification – Instead of relying on pay stubs (which are easy to manipulate), look for reports that verify income directly through bank or payroll data. This gives a much clearer picture of the applicant’s actual financial standing.

    Not all screening providers include the same depth or data sources, so it’s worth checking that your provider includes all of the above—especially Judgments & Liens and verified income, which are often overlooked but highly valuable.

     Tenant screening is one of the most effective ways to proactively reduce risk from day one.

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit, MI · Member since 2024 · 32 posts · 12 votes
    1y

    @Joe Hammel i have had your website bookmarked since i found it a couple months ago. i'm going to dm you!

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