home insurances cover knob and tube wiring

home insurances cover knob and tube wiring

Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2017 · 28 posts · 36 votes

Hey looking for home insurances that cover properties with knob and wiring. Recs/referrals would be greatly appreciated!

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Real Estate Agent · Willoughby, OH · Member since 2014 · 560 posts · 690 votes
7y

@Anthony Rosa There is way more to this than just replacing the panel. The knob and tube is the wiring which runs throughout the entire home. A new panel can be hooked up to the old wiring. The cost would include all new wiring, drywall repair, etc.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 227 posts · 287 votes
    7y

    I don't have any houses that are entirely knob and tube, but I do have a few that still have some left over. State Farm has been good about it. My agent is Chad Fields.

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    Property Manager · Brecksville, OH · Member since 2014 · 486 posts · 464 votes
    7y

    I also have owners with homes that have nob & tube.  I have called a number of my "go to" insurance guys and everyone seems to either be choosing not to quote or coming back with a huge premium penalty... including my State Farm guy. @Gwen Fyfe Does your guy Chad know that the homes in question are nob and tube?  

    I would love to see more discussion on this subject.

  • Rental Property Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 227 posts · 287 votes
    7y

    Probably not on all of them, but on some of them, for sure. When I first started buying he came out and took a look at properties and made a note of any areas of concern. I remember discussing the knob and tube with them when I was first shopping around for insurance. They even insured a duplex with Fed Pacific boxes for me at a pretty decent price. (I've since replaced the boxes, of course.)

    I think that at this point his staff just drive by and take photos of my new purchases.

  • Specialist · Insurance Advisor in Edmond, OK · Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    @Henry Wang,

    I would be surprised if any Standard/Preferred companies would knowingly insure knob & tube wiring. We would ultimately turn to a broker for Excess & Surplus markets available for this. Look for an independent agent around you who is knowledgeable and they will have the best chance at finding a market for you.

    Good luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · New York City · Member since 2019 · 703 posts · 538 votes
    7y

    Why not upgrade the panel. The cost may pay for itself in 3 years when comparing it to the cost of insuring knob and tube. Some insurance carriers won't even go near knob and tube.

  • Real Estate Agent · Los Gatos, CA · Member since 2016 · 88 posts · 39 votes
    7y

    I'd recommend calling a few insurance brokers (instead of going direct) in the area and they can assist in getting quotes for you.

  • Real Estate Agent · Willoughby, OH · Member since 2014 · 560 posts · 690 votes
    7y

    @Anthony Rosa There is way more to this than just replacing the panel. The knob and tube is the wiring which runs throughout the entire home. A new panel can be hooked up to the old wiring. The cost would include all new wiring, drywall repair, etc.

  • Rental Property Investor · New York City · Member since 2019 · 703 posts · 538 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jeff Brower:

    @Anthony Rosa There is way more to this than just replacing the panel. The knob and tube is the wiring which runs throughout the entire home. A new panel can be hooked up to the old wiring. The cost would include all new wiring, drywall repair, etc.

    You are 100% correct. I was thinking of the old type of "Plug Fuses" and was stuck on the Knob part.  Thanks Jeff.

  • Real Estate Broker · Northeast PA · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Henry Wang,

    Lots of people say knob and tube is no big deal.  I disagree.  Besides the old technology, the AGE of the wiring itself is a major concern.  Back in the day when K/T was installed, there were different loads on the circuits.  Today, we need much more electricity and most K/T systems are not up to the challenge.

    Hopefully you figured in the cost of service panel upgrade, total re-wire of circuits, outlets and switches, plus the reno/repair costs that will be required after the electricians finish beating holes in the walls and ceilings.

    We know it is a major chunk o' change, but after completion you will have a house that is safe and up to current code.  Fire/liability insurance can't undo an avoidable possible tragedy.

  • Real Estate Appraiser · Isabella lake, CA · Member since 2018 · 628 posts · 491 votes
    7y

    Call Tim Allen to rewire it. :>)

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