Philadelphia BRRRR rehab - A/C and finished basement

Philadelphia BRRRR rehab - A/C and finished basement

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I'm putting together the work scope for my first BRRRR. I'm confused about whether to include central A/C. The property is in Philadelphia. Typically in Philly you don't see central A/C in the type of neighborhood this property is in (Strawberry Mansion). However, a lot of the recent comps are now including Central A/C. I'm wondering how much the appraiser might subtract from the ARV if I don't include Central A/C. I also have the same question for finishing the basement (this is something new that I'm seeing in comps that unfortunately I won't be able to include because it would mess up my numbers and I would have to leave way too much money in the deal).

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Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 480 posts · 362 votes
4y

Central AC for a Strawberry Mansion rental would be overkill currently. You will not get it back in rent. However, if you are already doing extensive work, you may want to to already plan for it such as doing the ductwork or figuring out how ductless could provide a solution. I always keep an eye on the future exit in every house I do in Philly.  Same with the finished basement. If your ceilings are high enough and you make it clean and dry, you are already ahead. Investing in actually finishing it, I can not see how you would get it back unless you add egress and can make it a bedroom.

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  • Kevin MoyerBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 271 posts · 303 votes
    4y

    I can't speak directly to what it will do on appraisal but I will say generally tenants in these markets just want to see a 'clean' basement with sealed & painted walls and plenty of lighting. As long as there are ceiling fans in bedrooms & living room, central A/C also isn't a deal-breaker for renting. 

    Also A/C is one of our most common maintenance requests in the summer. So it's just another thing for you to pay for and maintain. 

    I don't have a problem renting your typical 3BR/1BA C-Class homes without A/C or finished basements.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 480 posts · 362 votes
    4y

    Central AC for a Strawberry Mansion rental would be overkill currently. You will not get it back in rent. However, if you are already doing extensive work, you may want to to already plan for it such as doing the ductwork or figuring out how ductless could provide a solution. I always keep an eye on the future exit in every house I do in Philly.  Same with the finished basement. If your ceilings are high enough and you make it clean and dry, you are already ahead. Investing in actually finishing it, I can not see how you would get it back unless you add egress and can make it a bedroom.

  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    I would not finish a basement for a rental. I might put in central AC if it was a full rehab. I would probably do it unless I was keeping/maintaining the existing radiator or HVAC system. But if I was putting in a new one I would go ahead and put in the AC. I might install the coil and wait to install the condenser for a later date.

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