Dallas/Fort Worth REI. What happened?

Dallas/Fort Worth REI. What happened?

Contractor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 100 posts · 49 votes

So, what happened to REI in D/FW? It seems like this market is gaining speed in the wrong direction. There's just not many deals out there, if any, even with minimal margins for investors?

Don't get me wrong, there's tons of wholesalers that will send you more packets on potential deals than anyone wants to read,  but most appear to have intentionally fictitious numbers. So where are all the actual deals at?

Are the assignment fees sucking the profit out of everything, are the sellers standing their ground for higher offers, what do you think?

I know the recent tax increases for our area was quite a gut punch for buy and hold strategies and obviously impact REI in general, but things have seemed to be in a steady decline for the past year. And now, here we are.

I'm just a contractor but do a ton of pre acquisition analysis for investors. Lately, I haven't seen anything come through at all that has anything left for the investor, even with minimal rehabs. I have had to advise a hard pass on almost everything that has come through in the recent months. Any local REI folks out there having the same experiences?

Would love some feedback, thanks in advance!

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Real Estate Agent · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2014 · 176 posts · 64 votes
7y

I started noticing something last month so I did a little digging. DFW is one of two metro areas that has almost all the IBuyer companies working the market. With this in mind, I did a quick check in the MLS on how many properties OpenDoor has sold over the last year. They sold around 700 properties between six months and 12 months ago. The last six months they have sold over 1300. My very unscientific conclusion is that these IBuyer companies are moving on the market share for DFW REI.

I spoke to my wife about it and she pointed out how easy it is to sell to these companies when you are needing to unload a property.   The ease of the process might be leading many sellers to go to them versus investors.  

I know that I have not seen much lately for my clients.  It seems to be the slowest it has been in awhile.  

It will come back around.  

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  • Investor · Lucas, TX · Member since 2010 · 620 posts · 352 votes
    7y

    @Mark Severino Yep.

    And I just missed out on another one in Plano. 1 DOM. $210K ask. $280K ARV. $40K flipping costs. I bid $217K.

    I guess I just need to accept smaller margins.

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    Property Manager · Keller, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Joshua Brooks Sr I know Robert Clark with PMI Premier personally. Your property will be in good hands with him.

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  • Mckinney, TX · Member since 2019 · 14 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Excellent points made by everyone, I’m new to real estate and North TX in general. Thanks for the education.

  • Member since 2019 · 38 posts · 8 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Robert Steele:

    I agree with everything said here. Good point about the iBuyers - I hadn't considered that.

    I think it's important to underscore the mentioned point that contractor's are taking advantage of this market (no offense OP). I'm seeing at least 25% markups than from a few years ago.

    You're right; the wholesalers are either completely clueless or liars. I've called them out on it multiple times.

    How much do you think is the result of newbie investors flooding the market buying up everything in sight and then getting burned? Before another batch of HGTV newbies rotates in to replace them?

    Case in point I just passed up what looked like a good deal last weekend because the numbers were tighter than an otter's pocket. It went under contract immediately so I guess either people have access to cheaper contractors/suppliers than I do or they are willing to take a big risk, or take a tiny profit or they are newbs.

    I miss the old days when I could look at dozens of distressed foreclosures and take my pick of the litter. I'm sure it will come full circle again.


    do you think it will come back???? to the old days.  I know for a fact My friend make somewhat average investment.  his company blows millions of dollars in cash. He just needs a tax safe.

  • New to Real Estate · Dallas, TX · Member since 2019 · 22 posts · 8 votes
    6y

    Excellent thread. 

  • Realtor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    6y

    The DFW market is definitely over heated at the moment. It's been difficult over the past year to find fix and flip properties for investors. Construction cost has increased dramatically. Also, more competition has entered the market. The low hanging fruit is gone but with focus one can still purchase an investment property in DFW area as long as the investor time horizon is long term. 

  • Specialist · Dallas, TX · Member since 2020 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Hello DFW!

    On this note, any investors interested in a recent deal I came across? Please reach out!

    Single family residence in South Dallas (75216) priced at $89k with ARV of $155k. Estimated repairs about $40k.

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2015 · 21 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    @Jason Coyle - just came across this thread and interested to get your observations around what's changed if anything given recent events? 

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