Pace Morby Gator Method Course Review
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Member since 2021 · 18 posts · 28 votesPace Morby Gator Method Course Review
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Don KonipolBusiness Member
Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votesEverything is good, wonderful, well worth the money, an investment in your future, member of a tribe, the networking alone is worth the money, yada, yada, yada. Until the posting “booster” is asked how many deals he’s closed from all this mentoring. That’s when it becomes dead silence.
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- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes3y
I have people in my program who are Gators. They say positive things but I don't see the point of paying $8,800 to 11,000.00 for it.
Quote from @Anthony Stephens:
It sounds interesting but my concern is that this would be an unsecured loan to someone who may not be in a good financial position. I assume that if the wholesale deal falls through the earnest money is lost and the "Gator" lender would have to seek the money from the wholesaler who did not have the funding to begin with.
Am I misunderstanding?
very good point!
- Lender · Laurel, MD · Member since 2019 · 1 post · 1 vote3y
How long is the course? Is it self-paced?
- I don’t believe you have to buy the mentorship to start partnering, but I’m trying to find out for sure.
Quote from @Gil Erez:
I am intrigued by the Gator method opportunity. Before spending $3000 I wanna make sure that it is not hype or exaggerated claims.
how long does it typically take to make your first gator deal after joining the program? How frequently does one typically make deals after the first deal? I understand that the investment or time and energy is required and correlates with success rate. But what is typical for someone who is committed?
is it worth $3000? - Investor · Hackensack, NJ · Member since 2023 · 3 posts · 4 votes3y
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
- Miami, FL · Member since 2023 · 1 post · 4 votes3y
I just saw this also. It seems too good to be true and from past experiences I have learned whenever it is " too good to be true " it tends to be exactly that.
With that being said , if there are people profiting currently from the Gator Method please reply below and tell me your wins and the amount of deals / money transacted.
- Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 5 votes3y
Quote from @Charles Beltran:
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
Me, too! Just now. We think alike coming here to research. lol
- Developer · St. Augustine, FL · Member since 2018 · 311 posts · 384 votes3y
Based on what I've seen so far and talked to my title company, you really don't need to pay to learn his teachings. Title companies who have done these for over decades love to teach you things like this for free, because you will bring them more deals.
What might be worth for the money is the network and connections. Knowing that if you find a deal that the team is looking for, you can get it off your plate quickly and make decent money. I'm not sure what's people's experience with getting deals off their plates and make money through Pace Morby's team. When he does the demo live, he makes it seems very easy to close a deal that people brought it to him. Often this type of connect is well worth the money, if real life experience is the same as advertised.
- Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 5 votes3y
Quote from @Nick DeBease:
I just saw this also. It seems too good to be true and from past experiences I have learned whenever it is " too good to be true " it tends to be exactly that.
With that being said , if there are people profiting currently from the Gator Method please reply below and tell me your wins and the amount of deals / money transacted.
I actually had a meeting with Prime Corp Services and they offered the same Corporate Credit Coaching for the same exact price as Pace's Gator Method Training program Bonus #4."Establish a credit profile, credit score, and opportunity to apply for advanced credit/ OPM "other peoples’ money" to leverage for even more deals"
So, really, you're paying $1K more to going Pace's Training because it already includes Prime's Corporate Credit Coaching. That $1K essentially is paying for Bonus #1-3. - Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 5 votes3y
Quote from @Charles Beltran:
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
Quote from @Nick DeBease:
I just saw this also. It seems too good to be true and from past experiences I have learned whenever it is " too good to be true " it tends to be exactly that.
With that being said , if there are people profiting currently from the Gator Method please reply below and tell me your wins and the amount of deals / money transacted.
I actually had a meeting with Prime Corp Services and they offered the same Corporate Credit Coaching for the same exact price as Pace's Gator Method Training program Bonus #4."Establish a credit profile, credit score, and opportunity to apply for advanced credit/ OPM "other peoples’ money" to leverage for even more deals"
So, really, you're paying $1K more to going Pace's Training because it already includes Prime's Corporate Credit Coaching. That $1K essentially is paying for Bonus #1-3. - 3yMike FernandezPro MemberMember since 2022 · 3 posts · 9 votes
Quote from @Jesse LeBlanc:
I concur @Jay Hinrichs! I've been trying not to reply to so many posts about this, but also need to watch out for rookies to save them from losses.
The other thing I don't like is that so many folks interested in this usually have very little extra capital and could lose some or all of their "extra" capital on a bad wholesale deal if they made one mistake. Super risky for an unexperienced person then nearly a waste of time for an experienced lender.
MOST wholesalers (my assumption) won't care about someone else's $ especially if there was no relationship before with one of these EMD lenders. They will be more focused on finding a buyer for a deal vs what date the DD ends and EMD is owed to the seller and most likely not be cancelling the contract or extending the DD to protect the lenders EMD funds. But that is another issue I have, finding a buyer AFTER you go binding vs having a buyer lined up first...but that's for another post.
Let's also face it, if someone doesn't have 500-5,000 in the bank as a wholesaler for EMD on their deals for their own business, another red flag. I get the purpose, I understand how it can help some newer folks earn extra side money, BUT I feel like there should be way more discussion on how to protect the lender, how much time it will take, what all is involved, nuances, hurdles etc and discuss those more. Unfortunately, this is generally catered more towards folks that don't know, don't care or too focused on a few bucks.
Many I have seen have more of a Reward over Risk thought process, get $ quick mindset basically but don't realize the risk, time constantly following up and sleepless nights wondering and waiting all for a small fee.
They could work with an existing lender, do some marketing to help broker, get a cut and make FARRRR more $ with zero risk vs this EMD lending. Probably less time spent too and more educated borrowers over a wholesaler.Thanks for the reply here! I was just about to get my credit card info for the course, when I thought to check BP forums. Your comments along with the comments around the chat being disabled during Pace’s pitch made me hold back.
Specifically to other’s points on the comments being disabled during the sales pitch… it seems to me the presentation is most likely recorded.
Looking back at the comments from a few months ago where folks reported that they could not see other viewer’s chats, and that Pace made the same statement about how he doesn’t know why the chat was disabled during my call, leads me to believe Pace didn’t want the chat enabled. I would think that in the time since the last sales ouch, they would be able to get the comments working. This is a shame too, because it takes away from Pace’s credibility, at least in my mind.
- Member since 2023 · 1 post · 3 votes3y
Quote from @Charles Beltran:
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
Yeah, definitely a recording. I picked up the same things too. I've just watched the "gator method" today. I feel like it's overpriced, but if you do get that value out of the course then it will be worth it.
- Is definitely worth it so far IMO. I’ve been a gator for about 2 months now and Pace’s community is amazing. There are definitely ways around the various costs, but you can also learn those thru the community members. If you are new to REI and want to be immersed in it, try it, won’t work for everyone, but worked for me.
Quote from @Allison Wong:
Quote from @Charles Beltran:
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
Yeah, definitely a recording. I picked up the same things too. I've just watched the "gator method" today. I feel like it's overpriced, but if you do get that value out of the course then it will be worth it.
- Have you been making deals?
Quote from @Nat Love:
Is definitely worth it so far IMO. I’ve been a gator for about 2 months now and Pace’s community is amazing. There are definitely ways around the various costs, but you can also learn those thru the community members. If you are new to REI and want to be immersed in it, try it, won’t work for everyone, but worked for me.Quote from @Allison Wong:
Quote from @Charles Beltran:
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
Yeah, definitely a recording. I picked up the same things too. I've just watched the "gator method" today. I feel like it's overpriced, but if you do get that value out of the course then it will be worth it.
- Investor · Reading PA · Member since 2020 · 15 posts · 18 votes3y
This is clearly a scam. It’s pre recorded. Very shady. There are very much bot like generic comments on this post of people saying how it’s great and not one person describing how they closed a deal. Just another snake oil salesman doing his thing. Spending most of the “live”webinar telling stories to try connect to people’s emotions and sale them an overpriced product that works for a tiny percentage of people. Not trying to be negative, but that is the reality of what’s going on. Im sure you can have success in it just like anything else, but I really dislike the dishonest approach and the intention to dupe people. Would still love to hear one person give the details of a deal they made and how they have had success.
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes3y
Quote from @Bryan Gwin:
This is clearly a scam. It’s pre recorded. Very shady. There are very much bot like generic comments on this post of people saying how it’s great and not one person describing how they closed a deal. Just another snake oil salesman doing his thing. Spending most of the “live”webinar telling stories to try connect to people’s emotions and sale them an overpriced product that works for a tiny percentage of people. Not trying to be negative, but that is the reality of what’s going on. Im sure you can have success in it just like anything else, but I really dislike the dishonest approach and the intention to dupe people. Would still love to hear one person give the details of a deal they made and how they have had success.
It is way overpriced. His people also harass other groups and try to get access to their people. And nobody should have to pay a guru to loan their own money.
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes3y
Quote from @Mike Fernandez:
First he would need to have credibility to lose it. His "gators" aare also known for going after other people's "students" or "members". They are very dishonest IMO.Quote from @Jesse LeBlanc:
I concur @Jay Hinrichs! I've been trying not to reply to so many posts about this, but also need to watch out for rookies to save them from losses.
The other thing I don't like is that so many folks interested in this usually have very little extra capital and could lose some or all of their "extra" capital on a bad wholesale deal if they made one mistake. Super risky for an unexperienced person then nearly a waste of time for an experienced lender.
MOST wholesalers (my assumption) won't care about someone else's $ especially if there was no relationship before with one of these EMD lenders. They will be more focused on finding a buyer for a deal vs what date the DD ends and EMD is owed to the seller and most likely not be cancelling the contract or extending the DD to protect the lenders EMD funds. But that is another issue I have, finding a buyer AFTER you go binding vs having a buyer lined up first...but that's for another post.
Let's also face it, if someone doesn't have 500-5,000 in the bank as a wholesaler for EMD on their deals for their own business, another red flag. I get the purpose, I understand how it can help some newer folks earn extra side money, BUT I feel like there should be way more discussion on how to protect the lender, how much time it will take, what all is involved, nuances, hurdles etc and discuss those more. Unfortunately, this is generally catered more towards folks that don't know, don't care or too focused on a few bucks.
Many I have seen have more of a Reward over Risk thought process, get $ quick mindset basically but don't realize the risk, time constantly following up and sleepless nights wondering and waiting all for a small fee.
They could work with an existing lender, do some marketing to help broker, get a cut and make FARRRR more $ with zero risk vs this EMD lending. Probably less time spent too and more educated borrowers over a wholesaler.Thanks for the reply here! I was just about to get my credit card info for the course, when I thought to check BP forums. Your comments along with the comments around the chat being disabled during Pace’s pitch made me hold back.
Specifically to other’s points on the comments being disabled during the sales pitch… it seems to me the presentation is most likely recorded.
Looking back at the comments from a few months ago where folks reported that they could not see other viewer’s chats, and that Pace made the same statement about how he doesn’t know why the chat was disabled during my call, leads me to believe Pace didn’t want the chat enabled. I would think that in the time since the last sales ouch, they would be able to get the comments working. This is a shame too, because it takes away from Pace’s credibility, at least in my mind.
- Real Estate Professional · Member since 2009 · 3 posts · 3 votes3y
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Everything is good, wonderful, well worth the money, an investment in your future, member of a tribe, the networking alone is worth the money, yada, yada, yada. Until the posting “booster” is asked how many deals he’s closed from all this mentoring. That’s when it becomes dead silence.
That's SO true, isn't it?
- Investor · Madison WI · Member since 2021 · 177 posts · 103 votes3y
I was about to sit through the "Live In-Depth Training" this weekend, but won't bother. In one of the youtube videos he has someone offer 5k of EMD for a return of 3k. If this were a real thing, everyone would be making money this way for a 2000% return.
Also the clear use of bots to leave reviews both at BP as well as trustpilot and other websites is a huge red flag to the legitimacy of Pace's organization. I won't be giving any of my money to Pace, but I'm still pretty disappointed.
- Investor · Spring Valley NY, USA · Member since 2023 · 15 posts · 1 vote3y
I have a Chromebook and it's impossible to conduct an efficient video call with prospects who hop on a Microsoft Teams to call with me. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
- New to Real Estate · Palm Beach Gardens, FL · Member since 2019 · 22 posts · 4 votes3y
I just heard about this method...what is it?
- Investor · Madison WI · Member since 2021 · 177 posts · 103 votes3y
*Did not pay for the training*
It appears to be a method to lend wholesalers earnest money and make supposedly extremely high returns. It really falls directly into the "sounds too good to be true" bucket. From what I can tell it's an unsecured loan, so if the transaction falls through the seller could keep the money and the wholesaler would somehow have to pay you back. Going to court to retrieve 5k would be really expensive...
- Member since 2023 · 10 posts · 4 votes3y
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
Exact same deal today 🤣 I wasn’t even paying attention to the chat had he not brought it up repeatedly. Fake. Couldn’t even listen to it for 10 minutes. Thanks for the info!
Quote from @Nat Love:
Is definitely worth it so far IMO. I’ve been a gator for about 2 months now and Pace’s community is amazing. There are definitely ways around the various costs, but you can also learn those thru the community members. If you are new to REI and want to be immersed in it, try it, won’t work for everyone, but worked for me.Quote from @Allison Wong:
Quote from @Charles Beltran:
Quote from @Jeanna Lichtenberg:
Did anyone sit through the free online "live" webinar? I did this morning. I doubt it was actually live. It was mentioned several times that no one could see the chat, but Pace assured us that he could see all our comments, and he would occasionally comment on the alleged comments. He even asked his assistant if he could get the chat turned on. (Of course, it never worked.) Any comment you made went "To admin only." But a message from "Team Pace" would come through that said "Pace's team can see your chats, it's due to a tech error but all is working and good!" I made a comment about the earnest money that contradicted what he had said about it. Then when I made another comment that it was convenient for them that no one could see any comments made, my access was immediately terminated. I went back to the webinar through a different device and saw that they had also added a link to access his Gator Method for $2,997. Of course, it's for a limited time only, then they are going to "shut off the Gator Method" for about a year. It all seemed rather sketchy to me.
05/27/2023 - :) Yeah, it's a recording. The same exact thing was stated in the training that took place just a few minutes ago. There were a few hundred on, and he said that he saw the "thousands" of people on. That confirmed. :)
Yeah, definitely a recording. I picked up the same things too. I've just watched the "gator method" today. I feel like it's overpriced, but if you do get that value out of the course then it will be worth it.
Hey @Nat Love how many deals have you done with the group of what you have learnt? Curious to learn more about it. Thanks
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