What return do you need if you're paying all cash for rental

What return do you need if you're paying all cash for rental

Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 76 posts · 25 votes

Hi all,

Quick question - in the Fort Lauderdale market, what return would you need to see from a rental property if you were paying all cash for it?

Reason for the question is because I have a potential wholesale deal pending, but it does not fit the mold for a fix and flip whatsoever. Obviously in order to wholesale this I need my end buyer to pay all cash so I'm wondering what return would make that worthwhile.

Thanks,

Nick

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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
9y
The reason it's 20% is a simple formula I'll share: If a property is a 10 CAP (would return 10% if all cash) then I can make 25% with leverage Let's look at a 100k home that makes 10%. Buy all cash, you make 10% Instead buy 4 of them with 25% down. Pay 5% interest. Make 10% on your downpayment finds and 5% on your leverage (10% return minus 5% cost of funds). But since you're leveraged it's actually 15% on the borrowed money. Or 25% total. And assuming appreciation of 2%, the single home would add 2% gain where as your 4 homes add 8% gain. So really, with leverage you're not just a bit better off, you're 3x or more better off. Thus why I hate being all cash
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  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y
    20%. But I'd still feel dirty being all cash in a deal.
  • Investor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2017 · 66 posts · 39 votes
    9y

    @Nick Brown

    I agree with Cody, 15-20% CoC.

  • Medford, NJ · Member since 2015 · 17 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    @Cody L. @Jay Jasunas Man I was way off. Looks like this is a referral to an agent! Thanks for the info.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y
    The reason it's 20% is a simple formula I'll share: If a property is a 10 CAP (would return 10% if all cash) then I can make 25% with leverage Let's look at a 100k home that makes 10%. Buy all cash, you make 10% Instead buy 4 of them with 25% down. Pay 5% interest. Make 10% on your downpayment finds and 5% on your leverage (10% return minus 5% cost of funds). But since you're leveraged it's actually 15% on the borrowed money. Or 25% total. And assuming appreciation of 2%, the single home would add 2% gain where as your 4 homes add 8% gain. So really, with leverage you're not just a bit better off, you're 3x or more better off. Thus why I hate being all cash
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