Analyzing my own house to see if I should sell or stay

Analyzing my own house to see if I should sell or stay

Tempe, AZ · Member since 2013 · 26 posts · 7 votes

Hey guys-

I have been running some numbers on my current house to help decide whether I want to move out into a fix and flip while renting my current house or if i want to sell the house and move into a fix and flip.

It's currently located in Tempe, Arziona about 2 miles away from ASU.

Here are the numbers (used the excel spreadsheet at the top of this forum- Great resource!)

House value: $204,000

Mortgage: $187,000

Effective Rent Income: $16,530 (5% vacancy)

Operating Expenses: $5,350

NOI: $11,180

Cash Flow: $-1,924

Cap Rate: 5%

After running the numbers above, I will have a negative cash flow of roughly $1924 which is a huge red flag for me (though i was conservative with repairs and vacancy numbers). The only thing that i could think would cause me to stay, is the house value appreciating in the next few years. It seems things have been rising somewhat quickly in the last year. I am thinking even if i had a loss of $1924 and the house value went up 5%, I would have a gain of $10,200 (.05*204,000+204,000). After the negative cash flow i have actually made $8276 for the year. So i invested 1924 (assuming no major problems) and receive a return of $8600 on it if the market continues to rise. One other key item is that i have a full time job and if needed i could pay the extra expenses.

Even all that being said, my gut is telling me I'd be much better off with a house that cash flows. In addition if i were to sell this and buy in the next few months, I would see similar appreciation in my next house and hopefully get a better initial deal.

Any other feedback is appreciated. This is my first time running through this so i am sure i am missing something.

0Reply
22 views

4 Replies

Jump to latestLatest
  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y

    Hey @Kevin Bieber it's a tough call. I don't like to bet on appreciation, so I'm not sure I'd let that influence the decision too much. How long have you held on to the house for? Cause your loan balance is also being paid down - probably more than the $1924 negative cash flow. So I think I would hold it, especially since after paying all the selling fees you'd have nothing anyways in terms of profit. At least this way - you have nothing, but you still have the asset that is being paid down and prices that are appreciating.

    Hope that helps some!


    Thoughts?

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    13y

    @Kevin Bieber

    I used to say that having negative cash flow was OK if you had other property that had positive cash flow to balance it out so that the aggregate portfolio was positive. Key words are "used to."

    Since 2008 I now say I only want positive cash flow properties. But that's me. I know that in certain areas and with certain properties you can't get positive cash flow, but those properties are not in my portfolio.

  • Durham, NC · Member since 2012 · 498 posts · 48 votes
    13y

    With a negative cash flow, the game becomes appreciation. You need a better understanding of your market to play such a game.

  • Tempe, AZ · Member since 2013 · 26 posts · 7 votes
    13y

    Thanks for the info guys, still leaning toward getting rid and going with a cashflowing property. Plan to keep this in mind!

Join the conversationCreate a free account to reply, vote on answers and follow this thread.