Seller Finance Deal in Minneapolis

Seller Finance Deal in Minneapolis

Investor · Brooklyn Park, MN · Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $260,000
Cash invested: $15,000

Deal was brought to me as a seller finance deal. 6 Bed 2 Bath in the Jordan neighborhood of North Minneapolis.

Seller requested 10% down at 4% interest with a 5 year balloon. Ended up taking down the deal with a partner and have roughly $15k in the deal. Cash flow is around $1200/month and is through a veteran subsidy program.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was my first time using seller finance! If I could do every deal that way I probably would. Awesome tool.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

My realtor brought me the deal. We ended up partnering on the deal and we negotiated a 10% down payment instead of the original 20.

How did you finance this deal?

I took out a 401k loan to finance the deal.

How did you add value to the deal?

I added value by taking care of most of the business setup as well as the administrative side of the deal.

What was the outcome?

We used a property manager to take care of some minor repairs and get it rented in less than 30 days. Currently cash flowing roughly $1200/month but knowing that in this neighborhood we need to keep a fair amount of reserves on hand.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Eric Robinson @ Rize Realty

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  • Real Estate Agent · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2022 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    Well done David! What was the most challenging step in your opinion? 

  • Investor · Brooklyn Park, MN · Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Mohamed Makroum:

    Well done David! What was the most challenging step in your opinion? 

     I would say that the most challenging step was finding the capital for the down payment. Moving forward I know this will be the thing that prevents me from scaling and I need to find a solution for it. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2022 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    Raising capital can be a huge challenge for sure, as we dive into 2023 creative financing will be key. Congratulations once again!

  • V.G JasonPro Member
    Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @David Lind:

    Investment Info:

    Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

    Purchase price: $260,000
    Cash invested: $15,000

    Deal was brought to me as a seller finance deal. 6 Bed 2 Bath in the Jordan neighborhood of North Minneapolis.

    Seller requested 10% down at 4% interest with a 5 year balloon. Ended up taking down the deal with a partner and have roughly $15k in the deal. Cash flow is around $1200/month and is through a veteran subsidy program.

    What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

    It was my first time using seller finance! If I could do every deal that way I probably would. Awesome tool.

    How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

    My realtor brought me the deal. We ended up partnering on the deal and we negotiated a 10% down payment instead of the original 20.

    How did you finance this deal?

    I took out a 401k loan to finance the deal.

    How did you add value to the deal?

    I added value by taking care of most of the business setup as well as the administrative side of the deal.

    What was the outcome?

    We used a property manager to take care of some minor repairs and get it rented in less than 30 days. Currently cash flowing roughly $1200/month but knowing that in this neighborhood we need to keep a fair amount of reserves on hand.

    Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

    Eric Robinson @ Rize Realty


     Confused as to how the numbers work. Your P&I is about $1,150/mo. Got to add taxes, insurance, property management then capex, reserves, and vacancies. What is rent?

    Also, I hope you're right about the 4% against a balloon. I don't think we see 4% within 5 years. 50% chance you're going to have to come up with the cash to pay that loan wholesome or re-finance at a higher rate.

    As for seller financing, are you 100% comfortable that the original house owner will make payments to the bank? Or does he own the house 100% outright?

  • Investor · Brooklyn Park, MN · Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @V.G Jason:
    Quote from @David Lind:

    Investment Info:

    Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

    Purchase price: $260,000
    Cash invested: $15,000

    Deal was brought to me as a seller finance deal. 6 Bed 2 Bath in the Jordan neighborhood of North Minneapolis.

    Seller requested 10% down at 4% interest with a 5 year balloon. Ended up taking down the deal with a partner and have roughly $15k in the deal. Cash flow is around $1200/month and is through a veteran subsidy program.

    What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

    It was my first time using seller finance! If I could do every deal that way I probably would. Awesome tool.

    How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

    My realtor brought me the deal. We ended up partnering on the deal and we negotiated a 10% down payment instead of the original 20.

    How did you finance this deal?

    I took out a 401k loan to finance the deal.

    How did you add value to the deal?

    I added value by taking care of most of the business setup as well as the administrative side of the deal.

    What was the outcome?

    We used a property manager to take care of some minor repairs and get it rented in less than 30 days. Currently cash flowing roughly $1200/month but knowing that in this neighborhood we need to keep a fair amount of reserves on hand.

    Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

    Eric Robinson @ Rize Realty


     Confused as to how the numbers work. Your P&I is about $1,150/mo. Got to add taxes, insurance, property management then capex, reserves, and vacancies. What is rent?

    Also, I hope you're right about the 4% against a balloon. I don't think we see 4% within 5 years. 50% chance you're going to have to come up with the cash to pay that loan wholesome or re-finance at a higher rate.

    As for seller financing, are you 100% comfortable that the original house owner will make payments to the bank? Or does he own the house 100% outright?

    The property is currently rented for $2695/month and is currently owned outright by an outstate investor. 
  • Wale LawalBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Houston | Dallas | Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @David Lind

    Is seller financing a good option? As unusual and unfamiliar as it is to most people, seller financing can be a helpful option in a challenging real estate market. However, the arrangement triggers some special risks for buyers and sellers, and it's wise to engage professional help to mitigate those and allow the process to run smoothly.

    All the best!

  • Investor · Brooklyn Park, MN · Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y

    @Wale Lawal

    I completely agree that there are risks involved! I think it’s important to know that there is no real estate deal that doesn’t come with some amount of risk. 

    I think you’re right though in that we can mitigate some of that risk by having other professionals in their fields help us navigate through sound decision making!

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    3y

    why does the area require reserves?

  • Investor · Brooklyn Park, MN · Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y

    @Drew Sygit

    This area of North Minneapolis has a fairly high amount of crime. There is just an extra associated risk for damages and such. We are just keeping some extra reserves on hand in case of extra repairs that may need to be made. 

  • Wale LawalBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Houston | Dallas | Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @David Lind:

    @Wale Lawal

    I completely agree that there are risks involved! I think it’s important to know that there is no real estate deal that doesn’t come with some amount of risk. 

    I think you’re right though in that we can mitigate some of that risk by having other professionals in their fields help us navigate through sound decision making!


     Yes indeed, I always believe to have a team of professionals to get the work done correctly.

    All the best!

  • Tim SwierczekPro Member
    Lender · White Bear Township, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @David Lind:
    Quote from @Mohamed Makroum:

    Well done David! What was the most challenging step in your opinion? 

     I would say that the most challenging step was finding the capital for the down payment. Moving forward I know this will be the thing that prevents me from scaling and I need to find a solution for it. 

    David, it's good that you recognize capital is the biggest issue holding all investors back. Once you realize this you become open that you don't need the capital to be your capital. Get good at making money on deals and then bring in partners. PM me if you want to meet up on zoom and talk about investing.
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