Investing in overpriced markets

Investing in overpriced markets

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I am looking to do a house hack in the Tampa/st. Pete area in the next 4-9 months but have been watching supply and days on market steadily increase and asking prices drop on a weekly basis. I have been able to find deals in the current market using the BP calculator that fit my buy box, but when I see that homes in that area are estimated to be ~30% overpriced and am watching in real time prices drop it leaves me unsure what to do. The main worry being that a good deal made today may not be a good deal tomorrow. My current plan is to take my time in finding a deal that either offers great concessions  or that can be negotiated down in order to make up for a possible price drop in the future. In summary, any advice on how and when to invest in a market that is not showing a lot of strength? Thanks 

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Greg ScottPro Member
Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
1y
Quote from @Scott Huff:

 I see that homes in that area are estimated to be ~30% overpriced

I'm very skeptical of the above sentence. I've never seen anyone that can accurately tell you if a house, stock, precious metal is going to go up or down. Who decided it was 30% overpriced?  What criteria did they use to decide that?

I'm never a fan of over-paying, but some markets have remained "overpriced" for decades.  Just look at California as an example.

When I look at an investment, the question I ask is will it deliver the returns I want based on what is known, ignoring speculation.  Since you are looking at a house hack, the "knowns" are usually much more favorable.  After all, you have to live somewhere.  Are you better off paying rent or buing a triplex and renting out two units.  Almost certainly the latter.  What if it is true that the market is 30% overpriced?  Does it matter if you essentially pay nothing for housing for a year, or 3 years or 10 years?

Don't let fear stop you from making a decision that can improve your life.

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  • Greg ScottPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Scott Huff:

     I see that homes in that area are estimated to be ~30% overpriced

    I'm very skeptical of the above sentence. I've never seen anyone that can accurately tell you if a house, stock, precious metal is going to go up or down. Who decided it was 30% overpriced?  What criteria did they use to decide that?

    I'm never a fan of over-paying, but some markets have remained "overpriced" for decades.  Just look at California as an example.

    When I look at an investment, the question I ask is will it deliver the returns I want based on what is known, ignoring speculation.  Since you are looking at a house hack, the "knowns" are usually much more favorable.  After all, you have to live somewhere.  Are you better off paying rent or buing a triplex and renting out two units.  Almost certainly the latter.  What if it is true that the market is 30% overpriced?  Does it matter if you essentially pay nothing for housing for a year, or 3 years or 10 years?

    Don't let fear stop you from making a decision that can improve your life.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Greg Scott:
    Quote from @Scott Huff:

     I see that homes in that area are estimated to be ~30% overpriced

    I'm very skeptical of the above sentence. I've never seen anyone that can accurately tell you if a house, stock, precious metal is going to go up or down. Who decided it was 30% overpriced?  What criteria did they use to decide that?

    I'm never a fan of over-paying, but some markets have remained "overpriced" for decades.  Just look at California as an example.

    When I look at an investment, the question I ask is will it deliver the returns I want based on what is known, ignoring speculation.  Since you are looking at a house hack, the "knowns" are usually much more favorable.  After all, you have to live somewhere.  Are you better off paying rent or buing a triplex and renting out two units.  Almost certainly the latter.  What if it is true that the market is 30% overpriced?  Does it matter if you essentially pay nothing for housing for a year, or 3 years or 10 years?

    Don't let fear stop you from making a decision that can improve your life.


    agree value is simply willing buyer willing seller nothing more nothing less..  When houses got to 100k in Cupertino CA. I thought who the heck would ever pay that amount for those houses they sold 10 years before for 25k to 40k.. well today they are 2 to 4 million same house.. This is very market dependent  also dependent on jobs and avaliable land to build etc.
  • Member since 2023 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    1y
    Quote from @Greg Scott:
    Quote from @Scott Huff:

     I see that homes in that area are estimated to be ~30% overpriced

    I'm very skeptical of the above sentence. I've never seen anyone that can accurately tell you if a house, stock, precious metal is going to go up or down. Who decided it was 30% overpriced?  What criteria did they use to decide that?

    I'm never a fan of over-paying, but some markets have remained "overpriced" for decades.  Just look at California as an example.

    When I look at an investment, the question I ask is will it deliver the returns I want based on what is known, ignoring speculation.  Since you are looking at a house hack, the "knowns" are usually much more favorable.  After all, you have to live somewhere.  Are you better off paying rent or buing a triplex and renting out two units.  Almost certainly the latter.  What if it is true that the market is 30% overpriced?  Does it matter if you essentially pay nothing for housing for a year, or 3 years or 10 years?

    Don't let fear stop you from making a decision that can improve 

     Thanks for your response and you make some great points. I’ll keep them front of mind moving forward

  • Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2023 · 87 posts · 44 votes
    1y

    Why ? 

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