Latest Project Photos - BP Partnership

Latest Project Photos - BP Partnership

J ScottPro Member
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Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes

I don't post a lot of Before & Afters here (I know people get bored of them), but this one is so nice that I wanted to give some credit where it's due...

This was a three-way BiggerPockets partnership between @Todd Whiddon, myself and another BP member who would prefer to remain nameless (he shuns the celebrity lifestyle ;-).  We originally were planning on a very large renovation, but after digging in and starting work, we realized that tearing it down was probably the better decision -- so we went back to square one and did things right.  Good lesson that trying to save money by doing less can ultimately cost you money if you're not smart about it.

Todd did pretty much all the work, so he gets full credit...

Here is a Before pic:

Here are some During pics:

And here's the final product, getting listed today:

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Property Manager · Livonia, MI · Member since 2011 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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holly crap, this is awesome!

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  • Property Manager · Livonia, MI · Member since 2011 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    holly crap, this is awesome!

  • Hartsdale, NY · Member since 2015 · 874 posts · 218 votes
    11y

    That is beautiful

    Even more beautiful would be the numbers.  BP and Me we just think numbers are beautiful.

    So we are asking what it cost?

    What did the Renovation cost?

    What are the holding costs?

    How long did it  take?  

    How much are you asking for it?
    What is the potential profit?

  • Insurance Agent · AZ · Member since 2013 · 306 posts · 161 votes
    11y

    Kudos to ALL involved; that is AMAZING! Definitely can't wait to hear the numbers on this one.

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    11y

    I'm going to hold off on posting all the numbers until it's sold -- you never know when one of your buyers might be trying to dig up information on the Internet to help them get negotiating leverage...

    But, the rehab costs -- including architect, engineering and permits -- were around $230K on this one (basically, everything other than purchase costs and holding costs).  Higher than we'd typically spend, but again, we screwed up by not just knocking it down at the beginning and that cost us a little bit...

  • Insurance Agent · AZ · Member since 2013 · 306 posts · 161 votes
    11y

    @J Scott I completely understand and agree! 

    BTW, I wasn't too far from you when I used to live in MD. Wish I was there for some delicious crab cakes! Although, Seattle does have good seafood here; there's NOTHING like the crab cakes at this little crab shack in Annapolis...sigh!

    Hopefully once you all sell, you can treat yourselves to a celebratory dinner!

  • Investor · Murphy, TX · Member since 2011 · 189 posts · 86 votes
    11y

    Stunning. Totally different house.

    What is the tile in the master bath? Porcelain or marble? Would also be interested to know what types of countertops you used. 

    How long did this take you? 

  • Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2014 · 308 posts · 94 votes
    11y

    Nice job as always @J Scott, will be waiting for the numbers after you sell.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2010 · 325 posts · 335 votes
    11y

    I can't take all the credit, other than making the project take a RIDICULOUSLY long time! 

    Our Un-Celebrity partner @___________ did a fair amount of supervisory work on this one... He even swapped out a damaged lockbox!

    Plenty of war stories on this rehab! The best was we had to replace an ENTIRE wall of the original foundation...

    Which involved supporting the ENTIRE side of the house while we removed it...

    All was going well...

    Easy Breezy...

    Until our grader backfilled TOO SOON and COLLAPSED the wall WORSE than before!! We had to tear out the WHOLE wall and START OVER!

    OUCH!  Even though we had to replace the wall TWICE!  Foundation companies were wanting between 15-22k for this repair and we ended up getting it done with our guys for about half that!

    Good as 'NEW"!

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2010 · 325 posts · 335 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Bill Hinshaw:

    Stunning. Totally different house.

    What is the tile in the master bath? Porcelain or marble? Would also be interested to know what types of countertops you used. 

    How long did this take you? 

    Credit to @Justin Childers for designing this AWESOME tile scheme!

    The "Marble" is actually a porcelain tile from Floor and Decor 

    The Glass is also from Floor and Decor 

    Granite was Moon White

    Coming up on the 10ish month mark!  Pretty much anything that COULD go wrong WENT wrong on this one!

  • Alok SoodPro Member
    Investor · Hoboken, NJ · Member since 2012 · 56 posts · 39 votes
    11y

    @J Scott & @Todd Whiddon - looks awesome guys - congrats! 

    If you don't mind me asking, how long did the overall project take? Also, did you end up doing the foundation wall 2x and then decide to tear the whole thing down and start from scratch? Or did you keep the foundation and just build up new from there?

    Thanks! 

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Bill Hinshaw:

    Stunning. Totally different house.

    What is the tile in the master bath? Porcelain or marble? Would also be interested to know what types of countertops you used. 

    How long did this take you? 

    @Todd Whiddon picked all the finishes, so I'll let him answer the tile questions...though it appears he picked the exact same granite counters that we used in our new personal residence (Moon White)...

    As for timing, the project started in October of last year, so we're at about 8 months.  Not too shabby, but given that Todd works like a machine, it was about 2-3 months longer than if we would have just come in with a bulldozer on day one...

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Alok Sood:

    @J Scott & @Todd Whiddon - looks awesome guys - congrats! 

    If you don't mind me asking, how long did the overall project take? Also, did you end up doing the foundation wall 2x and then decide to tear the whole thing down and start from scratch? Or did you keep the foundation and just build up new from there?

    Thanks! 

    See post above on timing...

    We kept the foundation after the wall was completed for the second time...

  • Ciro LoCascioPro Member
    Investor · Queens, NY · Member since 2013 · 135 posts · 39 votes
    11y

    @J Scott

     @Todd Whiddon

    Amazing Work!!! Priceless!

  • Queens NY, NY · Member since 2013 · 467 posts · 107 votes
    11y

    Amazing!!!....just freaking Amazing!!

  • Investor · Murphy, TX · Member since 2011 · 189 posts · 86 votes
    11y

    Congrats. Looks like there were some stressful moments in those 10 months, but you are on the market. Nice job on the documentation and pics, too.

    I'm working on an 85k rehab where we are 4 mnths in and still have probably 6 weeks to go. I can only guess how you felt when that wall collapsed. It's good to see how you guys stuck with it and created an awesome product.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Alexandria, VA · Member since 2014 · 461 posts · 262 votes
    11y

    The "After" looks beautiful. I love the exterior design elements and the color of the wood floors. 

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2010 · 325 posts · 335 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Alok Sood:

    @J Scott & @Todd Whiddon - looks awesome guys - congrats! 

    If you don't mind me asking, how long did the overall project take? Also, did you end up doing the foundation wall 2x and then decide to tear the whole thing down and start from scratch? Or did you keep the foundation and just build up new from there?

    Thanks! 

     Originally this was going to be a straight up Pop Top like this one but lessons learned from the first pop top, we decided it would be better to actually remove the first floor walls entirely and build up from the existing subfloor.  Well.... the existing sublfoor ended up being in much worse shape than we thought and we had to remove it...

    So this is basically a new build from the original foundation up...

    In hindsight and considering all the problems we encountered and extra demo cost to "strategically demo for the Pop Top", had we just torn the ENTIRE thing down we would have saved 10's of thousands of dollars and been done about 6 months ago!

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Bill Hinshaw:

    Congrats. Looks like there were some stressful moments in those 10 months, but you are on the market. Nice job on the documentation and pics, too.

    We've done a lot of these now, and you start to realize that every project is going to have it's issues (small or large).  Those who stress too much aren't going to be very happy in this business...  :-)

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2010 · 325 posts · 335 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Doug W.:

    The "After" looks beautiful. I love the exterior design elements and the color of the wood floors. 

     Thanks! The color is Jacobean with Semi-Gloss Poly

  • Durham, ME · Member since 2015 · 21 posts · 5 votes
    11y

    It looks so gorgeous! What are the wooden floors? 

  • Specialist · Austin, TX · Member since 2014 · 109 posts · 95 votes
    11y

    Well done as always, @J Scott! Looks amazing.

    Chad

  • Investor · Peachtree Corners, GA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Todd Whiddon@J Scott

    That is a fantastic looking house!  Great job guys!

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2010 · 325 posts · 335 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Ashley Harris:

    It looks so gorgeous! What are the wooden floors? 

     They are REAL #2 3/4" x 3 1/4" Red Oak with Jacobean finish & 3 coats of Semi Gloss Poly... We're paying about 4.75 a foot turnkey for that which is actually cheaper than some of the engineered stuff we can get our hands on now!

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2010 · 325 posts · 335 votes
    11y

    INTERIOR FINISHES

    I've gotten several PMs about the finishes we used, so anyone in Atlanta looking for their own spin on THIS level of pimpness...hit up @Justin Childers

    All paint colors Sherwin Williams...

    Interior-

    Walls- Knitting Needles

    Interior Trim - Natural Choice

    Interior Doors - Summit Grey

    Floors - Jacobean - 3 Coats Semi-Gloss

    Kitchen Perimeter Cabinets - Kith Harmony Antique White with Hand Brushed Gray Glaze

    Kitchen Island Cabinets - Kith Harmony Nutmeg

    Upstairs Bathroom Cabinets - Kountry Wood Vanderburg Coffee

    Downstairs Bath Cabinet - Home Depot Ashland

    Master Bath Floor Tile - Home Depot Matagna Rustic Bay

    Master Bath Freestanding Tub - American Standard Cadet

    Granite - Moon White

    Backsplash - Home Depot 3x6 Subway Tile

    ]

    All grout in house was light grey

    Next Up Exterior Finishes...

  • Architect · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 244 posts · 101 votes
    11y

    it is a nice looking house: simple massing, understated, good proportions. 

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