First deal at age 24: House-hack duplex

First deal at age 24: House-hack duplex

Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 109 posts · 40 votes

I did it! I set a goal in January to complete my first investment deal by June. I set a few important milestones to hit along the way... read the entire Book on Rental Property Investing to build my confidence... narrowed down my options, made an offer, and then I had the keys on June 30. It's a duplex, I'm living in one side and renting out the other. It's been a lot of work but I am liking it so far! It hasn't burnt down yet and I'm about to receive my second rent check which is just over 2x the P&I on the whole place... for me, that's a success.

Upsides to the deal: Healthy cash return (~15%) based on BP calculator and conservative assumptions, and the actual numbers are delivering well so far. Already cash-flowing - came with a great tenant on the other side. Newer property (2008) with simple construction - should be easier to maintain for a newbie like me. Positive location factors: good side of town, walking distance to healthy and attractive downtown area and employers; at end of a cul-de-sac (no thru traffic), bordered on one side by a wide-open grass lot with large tree, good views from the front porches. Low unemployment in the area and lower than average vacancy rates.

Downsides to the deal: Although it's new, the duplex itself is otherwise not very attractive - looks like a manufactured home, not very high-quality construction. Local middle-class job market is heavily dependent on a few companies.  Negative location factors: despite upside, the neighborhood is still just a C / C+ at best, dragged down by a couple of "D" houses, one of which is right next door (although the owners are just fine). 

I pulled the trigger because in my view the benefits outweighed the negatives and it fit what I needed in terms of house hacking, simplicity, and cash return. I am sure it will cause its share of headaches in the coming years, but I feel it's a good starter property and I will learn important lessons while making good money. I may need to move for work in the near future, but I know that I can still hang onto this property and make money because I built 10% property management into the calculation. I am concerned about how to get a good tenant when the other side moves out... but that's what BP community is for.

Thanks all for reading! Welcome any questions or comments.

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Rental Property Investor · WY · Member since 2016 · 243 posts · 221 votes
10y

Hey @Nicholas Sparks

IF you want to get into a duplex and cant afford/dont want to put down 20% and you'll be living in it, you can get an FHA Loan (or possibly a rural development loan) and put 3.5% down.

I did it on a 4 plex. 

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  • Note Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 135 posts · 79 votes
    10y

    Well done @Tim Johnson.  Is the duplex one property according to the county property appraiser or two?

    Gerald Demers

  • Casselberry, FL · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    10y
    Well done Tim! I'm 23 and I am starting the process you began in January. My biggest question is the financial side of the deal. Where did your down payment come from? Did you have other investors pitch in? Do you go through a local bank? Also was the house property listed or did you grab the deal before it hit the market? So pumped for you! Nick
  • Investor · Columbus, MT · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Tim Johnson

    Score!  Wife and I bought our first owner occupied duplex 4 years ago the week I turned 24.  One of the best decisions we have made.  It was an amazing spring board for us doing multiple deals since then. 

    Excited to think what's next for you. Way to go! 

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2015 · 254 posts · 136 votes
    10y

    @Tim Johnson

    That's awesome man. I tried to purchase a duplex for my first property to house hack as well. My deal sounds very similar to yours actually. But the deal fell through when the tenant wouldn't move out when I requested that the property be vacant when we closed. And the seller refused to evict them?? It was a really weird situation to say the least.

    But anyways congrats! It's great to see other young people doing deals on here!

    All the best,

    Nick

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2015 · 254 posts · 136 votes
    10y

    Also @Tim Johnson @Nicholas Sparks @Joshua D.

    Y'all should check out something I just posted on something very similar to this topic here:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/34...

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 1 vote
    10y

    Hello Tim, I've bought & sold a few years ago, and looking to up the ante.  I'm relearning terminology, and the ins and out, along with definite changes in the real estate game.  Doing research including reading.  What was the author and complete title of the book you mentioned that got you kickstarted?

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 109 posts · 40 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Danny Slater:

    Hello Tim, I've bought & sold a few years ago, and looking to up the ante.  I'm relearning terminology, and the ins and out, along with definite changes in the real estate game.  Doing research including reading.  What was the author and complete title of the book you mentioned that got you kickstarted?

    The book is simply called The Book on Rental Property Investing by Brandon Turner. Highly recommended, I will continue to reference it in the coming years.

  • Irving, TX · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 19 votes
    10y

    congrats Tim on your 1st rental deal

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 109 posts · 40 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Nicholas Armstrong:

    @Tim Johnson

    That's awesome man. I tried to purchase a duplex for my first property to house hack as well. My deal sounds very similar to yours actually. But the deal fell through when the tenant wouldn't move out when I requested that the property be vacant when we closed. And the seller refused to evict them?? It was a really weird situation to say the least.

    But anyways congrats! It's great to see other young people doing deals on here!

    All the best,

    Nick

    That's a bummer! In retrospect I actually should have done what you did and required for one of the units to be vacant at closing. At the time of my offer, both were occupied -- but I figured that since they were both month-to-month I could just work with the sellers to give notice and have one of them be out within 30 or 60 days of closing. If the sellers or tenants had not been cooperative, I easily could have ended up with a big problem on my hands... but things worked out smoothly and they had already moved out on closing day. Thanks and I'll be sure to follow your posts. Good luck in Alabama!

  • Real Estate Agent · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2016 · 408 posts · 242 votes
    10y

    Congrats and Hello from a fellow okie!

  • Wholesaler · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2016 · 77 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    I am with @Nicholas Sparks, @Tim Johnson. How did you finance the deal?

  • Rental Property Investor · Mount Vernon, NY · Member since 2016 · 89 posts · 125 votes
    10y

    congrats! 

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2015 · 254 posts · 136 votes
    10y

    Thanks! @Tim Johnson

    So you set a goal to acquire one property in 5 months. You acquired 2. So is acquiring two more properties before 2017 you next goal?? :)

  • Mesa, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    Congrats! Your post is great inspiration to me. Thanks for the details. As others have mentioned, I'm curious about the financing details.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 109 posts · 40 votes
    10y

    @Kyle S.

    It is one property - one single building, split into two sides.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 109 posts · 40 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Nicholas Armstrong:

    Thanks! @Tim Johnson

    So you set a goal to acquire one property in 5 months. You acquired 2. So is acquiring two more properties before 2017 you next goal?? :)

    I can tell from your profile that you are all about setting big goals and moving fast hahah! I am going to see how this investment goes over the next couple of months and see how I like being a landlord. 

    That said, making more investments like this would definitely be in line with my financial vision. If I want to pursue another rental property, I think I'd look in another market as I don't want to be too exposed to one small(ish) town.

  • Wholesaler · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2016 · 77 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Tim Johnson I, personally, would have done the conventional because I do not know any better when it comes to financing. But, I am trying to figure out how I can finance a deal with a lower down payment possibly or some other way. I am rather green when it comes to financing. The reason I would like better knowledge on the subject is because I do not want to wait 1.5 years to get started. I would prefer getting started within the next 6 months if not for figuring out how to obtain funds. I am still in the learning process and understanding will come with time. I also know that understanding will come with action as well-when reasonably backed by a solid foundation, continuous education, and a proven analysis of a property. Long story short, as of right now, I would have did what you have done.

  • Rental Property Investor · WY · Member since 2016 · 243 posts · 221 votes
    10y

    Hey @Nicholas Sparks

    IF you want to get into a duplex and cant afford/dont want to put down 20% and you'll be living in it, you can get an FHA Loan (or possibly a rural development loan) and put 3.5% down.

    I did it on a 4 plex. 

  • Wholesaler · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2016 · 77 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Jeff F. They have several duplexes where I live, Chalmette,LA, that are listed. I know for a fact that the neighborhoods are safe. Fortunately, for me, most of the places around where I live are safe and many people look for reasonable homes or apartments to rent here. The only thing missing is to run the numbers. Great suggestion for the FHA.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 109 posts · 40 votes
    10y

    @Johnquel Jones BiggerPockets community has loads of info about getting started in real estate with little or no money down. For instance check out The Book on Investing in Real Estate with No Money Down, by Brandon Turner.

    Or heck look around this website, they are advertising a free webinar on low-money down investing!

    Also check out the post that @Jeff F. just made, I don't know much about FHA Loans but look into it maybe it applies to you.

  • Wholesaler · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2016 · 77 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Tim Johnson My thoughts exactly, I am definitely going to look into it--like, right now!

  • Real Estate Agent · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2015 · 129 posts · 63 votes
    10y

    Congrats @Tim Johnson!!

    I am 23 years old and currently looking for my first investment property. It is cool to see that you are doing it at such a young age and having success. Great job with doing house hacking and I love the "go getter" approach. 

    Nice work!

    Sam 

  • Real Estate Professional · Moffat, Scotland · Member since 2016 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    Congrats! I am in the same boat as a lot of you. 24 years old, getting educated and setting my goals!

    Seems like a lot of folks started with duplexes too, I love the idea of that situation for a first deal and am keeping an eye out of deals on one.

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2015 · 254 posts · 136 votes
    10y

    @Sam Steadman @Account Closed

    Lets connect!

    Im looking to build my network of sub 30 investors. I'm in the process of building something unique and I'd love to keep in touch and hear about your progress. You can read my post here to get an idea of what I'm talking about!

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/34...

    I love this thread, It has sparked up some encouraging conversations! Great to see other young guns hustling to get things accomplished!

  • Real Estate Agent · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2015 · 129 posts · 63 votes
    10y

    @Nicholas Armstrong

    Connect with me and lets talk.

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