Flip Success! Detailed summary and photos

Flip Success! Detailed summary and photos

Rental Property Investor · Phoenixville, PA · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 44 votes

Flip Summary - Royersford, PA

Deal Summary

I came across this opportunity as a straight referral to list the seller’s home traditionally as a licensed agent. Upon our initial conversation, her extreme level of motivation became readily apparent. The seller had already abandoned the property due to concern over mold (that was not actually there). I laid out multiple options, from a traditional listing to a cash purchase to subject-to. We ultimately agreed that me purchasing the property subject-to the existing mortgage was the preferred route.

I had never done a sub-2 before and was determined to figure it out. I connected with various investor friends across the country, received excellent advice along with the form templates and contract addenda I needed to confidently take this deal down, and serve the seller properly.

Everything was going smoothly until a week before settlement, when my money partner, who I was going to split the profit with 50/50 upon outsale, decided against the subject-to approach. He was not comfortable with the concept and his attorney reinforced that. I pulled the money partner in to fund the rehab. Had I done it myself I could have pursued the sub-2 route, however, my goal was to have multiple projects ongoing at once and leveraging OPM was still at the heart of my strategy.

Needless to say, we shifted course and ended up paying cash for the property. Seller still received the net proceeds that were expected, no problem there.

The rehab itself was cosmetic overall, except for the basement that needed a gut. The previous owner had already rehabbed the kitchen, bathroom and flooring to give me a great head start. My scope of work was to add new HVAC, remove the existing electric baseboard, open and refinish the basement, add new carpeting upstairs, patch/paint the exterior and interior and add new windows. Timeframe was 4 months front to back, with a quick 30-45 day rehab. Or so I thought.

In reality, I would show up to an empty house more often than not. I had used this contractor before with the same issues. The crew did a decent job, however, the reliability was subpar. After some poking and prodding, the crew wrapped things up after about 75 days.

Projections

Purchase Price: $120,000

Closing Costs In: $5,984

Rehab/Holding: $37,110 (includes 10% contingency)

ARV: $200,000

Closing Costs Out: $9,048

Profit: $28,268

Time: 120 days

Investor Cash-on-Cash ROI: 8.7% (28.9% annualized)

Actuals

Purchase Price: $208,000

Closing Costs In: $5,945

Rehab/Holding: $43,961

Sold Price: $208,000

Closing Costs Out: $8,648

Profit: $28,555

Time: 180 days

Investor Cash-on-Cash ROI: 9.4% (20.0% annualized)

Structure

Pulled in a private money partner to fund $160k purchae + rehab, I would come out of pocket for any overage. Created LLC and operating agreement to split net profit 50/50 (I voluntarily gave partner a bit more to get them to an even $15k distribution as a thank you).

Details (Nitty Gritty!)

For those of you that love full transparent details here are all the numbers, original projections and actuals on the back end. The first chart shows what each partner invested and their actual returns. The second chart is a detailed budget analysis showing projected expenses vs actual. All said and done, I was short $1,171 off my original projections. I’ll take it!

Lessons Learned

Lesson 1: Be specific with the rehab objectives each and every week. Don’t assume your contractor is showing up when you expect them to. Speak to them on Monday, lay out the weekly plan, hold them accountable end of week to that plan. Keep the pressure on.

Lesson 2: Use a plumber for even the most basic plumbing hookups. A leaking toilet not only sent my water bill through the roof, but the contractor had not tightened the toilet properly, causing it to leak through the floor into the covered porch below. Thankfully it was an exterior space, had it been the kitchen on the other side of the wall the cleanup would have been more extensive. Still, that was nearly $1,000 down the drain in avoidable water and restoration charges. The water company gave me a slight leak adjustment, enough to enjoy a meal at Wendy’s.

Lesson 3: Instruct your contractor to request permission for changes and the associated cost before the work is completed. By not having appropriate oversight weekly with the contractor, his crew took it upon themselves to perform work not part of the original scope. While I certainly want a proactive contractor on my team, their approach to keep inventory of all extra work performed and ding me on the back end creates conflict and eats into profit. Having to negotiate down from a surprise $8k bill on the back end can easily be avoided with proper expectations and oversight.

Lesson 4: Ask the neighbors to keep an eye on the house. Be respectful. Get them on your side. I did not do a great job with this on this project. Once rehab was complete and house was under contractor, it snowed and I forgot all about snow removal. The kind neighbors decided to thank me by piling all snow into about a 12’ pile on my front sidewalk. Needless to say, the township wanted that removed. I guess next time I should remember to shovel the sidewalk.


BEFORE & AFTER

ON TO THE NEXT!

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Biggerpockets Support · Las Pinas, Metro Manila · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 1k+ votes
8y

Congrats Shawn, it looks awesome and I love the tip about getting help from the neighbors

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  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenixville, PA · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 44 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Laura Shinkle:

    Thank you so much

    @Shawn Lowery for your insight and the details in the spreadsheet. I hear a lot about the overall numbers but the details of the transaction costs, down to what is involved in holding costs, is really helpful for us newbies. Not being used to these transactions, we may overlook real estate taxes, all the fees involved in closing, commission costs, utilities, permits, etc. 

    I am about 2 weeks away from becoming a licensed broker in NC. The way you came about this opportunity goes to show you never know how an opportunity will come to you and what you'll make of it. Just out of curiosity, I assume you were the listing agent when you sold the property, given the 3% commission that was paid on the back end. Did you collect commission as the buyer's agent when you acquired the property?

     I waived the commission upfront and only collected a small fee as listing agent on the back end.  To gain momentum and experience with flipping, I was less concerned with commission, and more concerned with honing in the systems to help make a flip profitable.  I see having a license as leverage, as I'll often forego my buy side commission and let the seller keep that, to help boost their net proceeds and strengthen my offer in a competetive bidding situation.  Ideally though, you can keep both the commission on front end and back end, AND hit your min. target for profit.  Added bonus in my eyes is as the listing agent, I often get at least 1 new client on the sales side to help them buy and/or sell.  That extra commission is not reflected on the spreadsheet, but it's a nice bonus to further leverage having a license

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenixville, PA · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 44 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Philip Lombardi:

    Did you create that spreadsheet on your own or did someone share it with you? Great job on a great profit and flip.

     A mentor originally gave me his flip template which I've customized.  It hits all the main components for me, however, I'm always looking for ways to streamline.  I wanted to show it so we could see all the costs of flipping front to back, as some may unintentionlly overlook some of these true costs.

  • Multifamily Syndicator · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    @Shawn Lowery Congratulations on getting started, Shawn (many never do!)

    Always nice to connect with other syndicators!

  • Rental Property Investor · Laurel, MD · Member since 2017 · 176 posts · 37 votes
    8y

    Thanks for sharing, particularly like the detail excel sheet !

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 41 posts · 5 votes
    8y

    Good job Shawn, shows the effort and hard work that was put in. I have two questions -

    1. This deal looks like a split in equity only, did you partner not expect an interest on the investment during the project timeline?

    2. Looking at the numbers, the agent fee of 3.5% seems little low, was that because you represented it as the seller's and buyer's agent at sale?

  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2017 · 20 posts · 7 votes
    8y

    Thanks for sharing!! 

  • Atlanta, GA · Member since 2017 · 19 posts · 9 votes
    8y

    Congrats on your first flip! Would love to see how your next one looks like whenever that gets lined up!

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenixville, PA · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 44 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Arun Chhatpar:

    Good job Shawn, shows the effort and hard work that was put in. I have two questions -

    1. This deal looks like a split in equity only, did you partner not expect an interest on the investment during the project timeline?

    2. Looking at the numbers, the agent fee of 3.5% seems little low, was that because you represented it as the seller's and buyer's agent at sale?

    1. Correct, this was a straight 50/50 equity split. This particular partner and I have an LLC with an operating agreement spelled out that way. We use that particular entity when an equity split makes sense. I typically pay out interest on private money though, so this is a bit of an anomaly

    2. I only collect a small commission as listing agent on the back end and offer out a full commission to a buyer's agent.   Makes me think though...is the tax I pay on flip income the same as my ordinary income as a real estate agent?  I could charge a higher commission (which essentially means I collect less "profit" from the flip and swap it for earned income as a real estate agent).  I'm thinking it's the same bottom line net of tax, not certain though.   Thanks for asking

  • Real Estate Agent · New York, NY · Member since 2018 · 30 posts · 17 votes
    8y

    Congrats @Shawn Lowery, especially on your first flip. Appreciate you sharing the details and nitty gritty. 

    I'm curious, for your next flip would you pursue the same financing option or would you go down a the sub2 route?

    Excited to keep up with your future deals. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Savannah, GA · Member since 2014 · 298 posts · 67 votes
    5y

    I find that if you buy Sub-2 and then sell on a lease-option, the tenant-buyers often improve the property.

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