Crushing it, with $3000 a door!

Crushing it, with $3000 a door!

Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 483 posts · 956 votes

Hello Bigger Pockets!

I'm the guy with two first names. ;)

Before I get to how I cash flow $3000 a door. (Actually it's $3000 per single family home) Let me first give you my story.

I have been a long time reader of Bigger Pockets and figured it's time to share my story and maybe motivate some to take that first step.

First I'm the youngest of eight children. My dad was a Marine and after that always had his own business. He taught us to work hard and believe me in our house you worked or didn't eat. I know that sounds terrible but actually I'm a better person today because of it.

Best advice my father every gave me was, son you will never get rich working for someone else. He was right although I didn't really follow his advice. Because I knew I would also join the military. My family has a long history of military service going back to the revolutionary war.

In high school I worked for my father's construction company, the local grocery store and started my own lawn service. All while playing sports, band and other things like FFA and 4H. I was making so much money I quit high school and got married. I did however get my GED which I knew I would need to join the military.

So after I quit high school I read a book from some real estate investor from Florida. Sorry I don't remember the name of the book or the author. But he said there's enough rental property within five miles from you to retire on. That's all I took away from the book. 

When I turned 18 I bought my first rental for $7800 cash. I rented that house for $450 a month and after  five years sold it for $32000. I never put any money into that house but what I paid for it.

At 19 I joined the military and started buying houses at every location I was stationed at. I would buy a house and live in and fix it up. Once in rental shape I would move into my travel trailer until I had enough to buy my next rental. I just keep doing it over and over. 

At 29 I passed the one million net worth mark and married my 3rd wife. To all you young folks divorce is the biggest killer of net worth. Believe me, marry the right person the first time. If they don't understand personal financial and have a plan for the future move on.

After 23 year's in the military I went from private to sergeant major but was diagnosed with cancer. Unfortunately the military medically retired me. I honestly would have stayed 35 year's because I loved being a soldier.

I forgot to mention while in the military I always had a second job. I worked at McDonald's as a assistance manger. Worked for FedEx, did new home warranty repair and was a paramedic.

When the military retired me I had 32 doors spread out across the country. This was in 2007. I sold all my rentals before the crash. No I didn't know the crash was coming. I sold because I didn't know if I was going to survive cancer. I put all that money into a low cost index fund.

Moving forward I have been cancer free since 2010. We currently own 9 doors, 4 that cash flow from 500 to 1000 a month and 5 that cash flow 3000 a month. We are closing on another on the 26. 

Now I know as a long time reader here someone going to say bull hockey you can't cash flow $3000 a month on one door. But I will tell you, you can in the right market with the right rental. All 5 soon to be 6 are new homes. So our capex is really low. 

How did I discover this market well I have a friend who has 15 rentals. They range from D to C+. He was cash flowing pretty good but wanted to increase his rent's. As a recovering addicted and now a drug & alcohol counselor. He started a non-profit that provides counseling and housing. Bingo he rent's rooms not house's to the non-profit client's.

I studied what he was doing and I looked for an opportunity similar to what he's doing without the non-profit aspect. It's true I really have 15 doors soon to be 18. But these are 4 bedroom houses and I only rent 3 bedrooms because they only have 3 baths. 

Anyway that's my life in a nutshell. I hope my story will inspire some new investor's to take that first step and some old pro's to think outside the box. 

Please don't ask where my rentals are or if I need a partner. My bank gives me conventional loans @ 5% down with no PMI so I don't need financial help either. Actually we could pay cash for these homes but as long as interest rates are this low we are going to keep financing.

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Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
8y
Clifford Paul Moral of story to is it has taken years to get where you are. People think in a year they will be rich and retired. Real estate is long term plan to build wealth
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  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 483 posts · 956 votes
    8y

    Update!!!

    My lender got loan done early and I closed on crash pad number 6 on Friday. 

    My property manager got lease signed on Friday for August 1st start. 

    Here's the numbers: new build

    30 yr, 5% down, no PMI, interest rate 4.75%

    Price: $259,500.00

    Deposit: $5,000

    Closing cost: $5,706.41

    Cash to close: $13,624.97

    Payment: $1,404.21 with taxes and insurance.

    Payment will increase next year when taxes catch up on new build.

    24 month lease, occupied or empty.

    Rent: $5,400 to $5,580 - based on 30 or 31 days.

    Numbers based on my 5 other crash pads.

    Cleaning: $900 a month billed back to airline.

    Laundry: $300 a month billed back to airline.

    Lawn care: $140 

    Electric: $180

    Gas: $30

    Trash & sewer: $31

    Water: $60

    Cable & internet: $120

    Monthly cash flow:

    5% maintenance: $270

    5% vacancy: $270

    Property management fee: 10%

    30 day cash flow: $2,354.79

    31 day cash flow: $2,498.79

    As you can see I did not hit my $3,000 a door on this one. I bought a more expensive house this time. My builder has increased pricing and no longer is building at a price point where I can reach 3k a door, unless I put more than 5% down. I'm fine with that. I already put a 5k down payment on next build.

    Cash on cash return numbers:

    Annual cash flow: $29,121.48

    Loan amount: $246,525.00

    Down payment & closing: $18,624.97

    Furniture and appliances: $20,000.00

    Total cash invested: $38,624.97

    Cash on cash return: 75.3%

    Last thing I'm only doing 5% on maintenance because these are new homes. I get 1 year 100% builders warranty and then a 1 year warranty through a warranty company. So far there's been very little maintenance and the builder has taken care of everything same or next day. 

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    @Clifford Paul, I can't argue with "All my crash pads are either 12 or 24 month lease. I'm getting $60 a room per night occupied or not. Best part is airline pays me directly and they cover cleaning and laundry service".

    Also, I can't argue with "30 yr, 5% down, no PMI, interest rate 4.75%" (for pure investment loans)!

    Just - wow!...

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 483 posts · 956 votes
    8y

    @Brent Coombs

    Full disclosure Brent, I have a 30 year relationship with my credit union. With this loan, that's 41 closed loans. They also hold a large amount of my investment accounts so they know where my money is. A lot of people ask on bigger pockets how to get low down payment loans. It's easy just find a local credit union that does in house loans and build a relationship with them. Also doesn't hurt to live on the same street as your banker and let him beat you on the golf course once a week. ;)

  • Pagosa Springs, CO · Member since 2017 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    So awesome! I can't wait to get my first deal.

  • Investor · La Porte, TX · Member since 2011 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Clifford Paul:

    Update!!!

    My lender got loan done early and I closed on crash pad number 6 on Friday. 

    My property manager got lease signed on Friday for August 1st start. 

    Here's the numbers: new build

    30 yr, 5% down, no PMI, interest rate 4.75%

    Price: $259,500.00

    Deposit: $5,000

    Closing cost: $5,706.41

    Cash to close: $13,624.97

    Payment: $1,404.21 with taxes and insurance.

    Payment will increase next year when taxes catch up on new build.

    24 month lease, occupied or empty.

    Rent: $5,400 to $5,580 - based on 30 or 31 days.

    Numbers based on my 5 other crash pads.

    Cleaning: $900 a month billed back to airline.

    Laundry: $300 a month billed back to airline.

    Lawn care: $140 

    Electric: $180

    Gas: $30

    Trash & sewer: $31

    Water: $60

    Cable & internet: $120

    Monthly cash flow:

    5% maintenance: $270

    5% vacancy: $270

    Property management fee: 10%

    30 day cash flow: $2,354.79

    31 day cash flow: $2,498.79

    As you can see I did not hit my $3,000 a door on this one. I bought a more expensive house this time. My builder has increased pricing and no longer is building at a price point where I can reach 3k a door, unless I put more than 5% down. I'm fine with that. I already put a 5k down payment on next build.

    Cash on cash return numbers:

    Annual cash flow: $29,121.48

    Loan amount: $246,525.00

    Down payment & closing: $18,624.97

    Furniture and appliances: $20,000.00

    Total cash invested: $38,624.97

    Cash on cash return: 75.3%

    Last thing I'm only doing 5% on maintenance because these are new homes. I get 1 year 100% builders warranty and then a 1 year warranty through a warranty company. So far there's been very little maintenance and the builder has taken care of everything same or next day. 


     I so appreciate this and wonder how are things going now with your crash pads in 2022?  How did you connect with the airlines?

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Awesome read and congrats man!

  • Member since 2023 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    Goodday!!! I did some researching on crashpad I’m interested in trying it out but I a little lost on how to apply to be a landlord I have a apartment I want to use as a crashpad can you direct me in being a landlord for crashpad.

    Thank you

  • Member since 2023 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    Goodday!!! I did some researching on crashpad I’m interested in trying it out but I a little lost on how to apply to be a landlord I have a apartment I want to use as a crashpad can you direct me in being a landlord for crashpad.

    Thank you

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