Almost ready to rent my first income property..

Almost ready to rent my first income property..

Investor · Member since 2011 · 18 posts · 1 vote

I probably should have joined this forum a year ago, before I started looking to invest in an income property.

I bought a month ago and I'm now close to having the property ready to rent.

I'd like to submit the particulars of the deal for analysis.

Am I in the right place?

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Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 928 votes
15y

By sales comps, the "ancient" past of 2007 is completely irrelevant. The rule of thumb is to find closed sales (not listings) in the last 6 mths and within one-half mile of your property -- preferably condos. Your agent can pull these numbers very quickly using the MLS.

Condo associations create a lot of unknowns and extra risks of special assessments and mismanagement, particularly when numerous units are vacant, as people have pointed out. If you can make $5-10K from flipping that would be my course of action, then find a better property.

Your cap rate (net yield on your 73K investment) will be a paltry 5% if you hold this:

1600 rent per mth
- 750 HOA
- 225 taxes/insurance (est).
- 20% of 1600 for vacancy, repairs, prop mgmt
=305/mth NOI

That's poor in any context. Please consider moving on.

Good luck, David

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  • Investor · Member since 2011 · 18 posts · 1 vote
    14y

    Well, things have worked out pretty well, I guess.

    I ended buying 2 units in the same complex, one right after the other.

    Both properties are the same size and floor plan.

    1st property 3 bdrm 2 bath - 1300 sq ft.
    2st property 3 bdrm 2 bath - 1300 sq ft.

    Paid about the same for both -

    1st property purchase $65k +rehab $8k
    2st property purchase $60k +rehab $10k

    I had same rehab guy do the work on both and that worked out well.

    I rented both properties out quickly and have received the rents from both tenants on time.

    The first rental was found from an ad in the local community paper.

    The second rental was from word of mouth.

    The out of pocket expenses have been as follows:

    1st property - New AC/Heater air exchanger $2,500.

    2 property - $600 for cracks in walls from either settling or bad workmanship and squeaky floor fix.

    On the income side from both, I receive about $1,550 clear of HOA fees.

    So, on the year, I'm on pace to make about $15,000 after expenses.

    On a ~$150,000 investment, it's okay.

    One tenant likes to pay cash, the other sends a check in the mail.

    The cash guy pays pronto on the 1st of the month.

    The check guy pays on the 7th or 8th of the month.

    The drive from my house to the property location is 30 minutes. It's about the same distance from my job to the property locations.

    So, I probably spend a couple hours a month collecting rent and dealing with some small issues.

    Not sure I'd do this again, but maybe.

    I'm looking around now at properties that have very low HOA fees.

  • Property Manager · Livonia, MI · Member since 2011 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    14y

    seems like it worked out pretty good for you. if you dont start loving it, and if the market turns up, cash out and put the money in something else.

    good luck!

  • Residential Real Estate Agent & Investor · Washington, DC · Member since 2012 · 16 posts · 1 vote
    13y

    Hi Ken,

    Are these condo's by chance near Aspen Hill? Sound like condo's in or around Bel Pre Road.

    I have been very tempted to buy in this area.

    Jason

  • Real Estate Investor · chicago, IL · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 231 votes
    13y

    Why on earth would one want to buy where 40% of rent is hoa? You gotta deal with neighbor's noise/damage/nuisance and if they don't pay, your hoa could go up. U get fined if your tenants don't follow the rules. Hoa can change the rules overnight and not allow renters and you're screwed.

    There's enough aggrevation in this biz w/out having to deal w/ hoa bs.

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