The Bank Should Pay Me To Take The Property

The Bank Should Pay Me To Take The Property

Charlotte, NC · Member since 2018 · 62 posts · 28 votes

I have heard about these types of deals, but never ran across one until now. I will give color to the deal below. However, my question for the forum is not about the deal, but about the BRRRR Calculator.

How Does The BRRRR Calculator Compute/Solve/Calculate the ARV in the FINANCIAL INFO Section of the Report?

About the property:

  • Foreclosure: Bank Asking 86,900
  • ARV: 105,000 (my calc giving the area and rental rates)
  • Property Characteristics: SFH (ranch) 1970s, 2bed, 1bath, 1274 sqft, wood paneling throughout
  • Rehab Budget: $48,000 (reconfig to: 3bed, 1.5bath [fiberglass insert], rewire, fixtures, outlets, kitchen [laminate counters])

The BRRRR Calculator is telling me the ARV is $50,250 (still would like to know how this calculated). So, I am thinking I should offer the bank a price that is 50% of the BRRRR ARV calculation (approximately $25,125), because 25,125 + 48,000 = $73,125. Using this number as a projected all in costs, it would put me at 69.64% of the $105,000 ARV.

Even at this number, with rents averaging $875/mo, I would only be at 1.19% of the all in price (monthly)

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

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  • Joe VilleneuvePro Member
    Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    7y

    My thoughts are to not use that calculator.

    You have to analyze a property for multiple exit strategies.  Examples:

    1 - Minimum Cash Flow with mortgage
    2 - Min CF all Cash Buy/rehab
    3 - Min CF for REFI (BRRRR)

    4 - Flip Profit
    5 - Equity
    6 - All the above with or without partners
    7 - Minimum Cash on Cash Return
    8 - ...etc...

    They all don't have to work...just the ones you can/want to do at the time of analysis.  If the deal works for Flip Minimum CoCR, but doesn't work for Flip Profit...and you are looking to hold the property, then buy it.  If that same deal works for Equity, but not for Cash Flow...and you are looking to hold it, then don't buy it.

    Base the Offer Price using reverse engineering for all the above strategies, and make the offer based on the strategy you want to use.

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