How I got back into real estate and why I should never have left

How I got back into real estate and why I should never have left

Rental Property Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2015 · 64 posts · 38 votes

Dear BP! I just wanted to share my story with all of you and hope that it will motivate you and give you hope. My story will show some of the lessons I learned during the last few years. First, it doesn’t take as much money as you think to achieve financial freedom but you have to stay focused on your goal. Realize that made you successful in your job today may not be sufficient for you to be successful as a real estate investor. Be numbers driven and get emotions out of financial decisions. Finally take action. Any action is better than inaction in my opinion.

On October 2014, one of my 2 sons came to me because he wanted to do real estate investments. It gave me mixed feelings. My real estate experience so far was not as successful as I wanted it to be. His announcement brought me back to my very first real estate investment. I was young, fearless, and nothing to lose. I was in my second year of university with $125 in the bank. I was introduced to this real estate mentor who showed me how to do a deal one move at a time. I wasn’t afraid because I didn’t know what to be afraid of and worked tirelessly to find an 8 units apartment building that would work cashflow with a seller who was willing to give me loan in second position. Closed with no money down! But it was bitter sweet because I didn’t see the value in property management so I became the property manager and the maintenance guy. Let’s just say it was not for me.

Just a little background about me before moving on. I graduated in Math and worked as an Actuary in Canada. Most of my actuarial career was dedicated to converting defined benefit plan to defined contribution plan. In 2000, my wife, my 2 boys (5 and 3 at the time), and I moved to the SF bay area. As an actuary I knew that I wouldn’t be able to retire comfortably unless I changed the path I was on. As a father I wanted to leave a legacy for my children. As entrepreneurs, my wife and I tried multiple businesses that would generate passive income.

Back to my son who is waiting on my answer while trying to figure out my inner dialog. My answer? “Sounds great. How do we do that?” Turns out that FortuneBuilder was the answer. FB has a great program for people who are new to real estate investment which was perfect. The two of us tried to put some deals together but living in the SF Bay Area it was nearly impossible. My older son was graduating in entrepreneurship and he wanted to do business so he joined us in this venture. We pivoted a few times since 2015 until we found our footing in Single Family rentals out of state.

February 2017: We bought, rehabbed and rented out our first single family rental in Memphis. BRRR

April 2017: Bought 1 more SF rental in Memphis.

July 2017: Sold 1 rental and bought 1 rental in Memphis. Word got out to our friends and family about our investments and some of them started investing with us.

August 2017: Built a team in Cleveland and St Louis. Bought a fourplex in St Louis, 1 single family (SF) in Cleveland, and 1 more SF in Memphis. At this point our buyer’s list was growing.

Sept-Dec 2017: 4 more deals.

2017: Bought 10 deals and sold 5 deals. The deals that were not sold are still cash flowing today as part of our portfolio.

January to July 2018: We bought 15 more houses, rehabbed them, rented them and sold 10 of them to our growing investor list.

August to December 2018: Sold our primary residence in August. Like I said, be numbers driven. I used the gains to invest in out of state rental properties, used the passive income to pay the rent on a bigger better house for us in the Bay Area. Bought 34 properties including a 20 unit apartment building in mid town Memphis. Sold 11 more properties.

2019: We are on target to more than double what we did last year, including 4 multifamily properties. I also quit my lucrative consulting gig to focus entirely on real estate.

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Rental Property Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 214 posts · 270 votes
6y
Originally posted by @Eric Martel:

Dear BP! I just wanted to share my story with all of you and hope that it will motivate you and give you hope. My story will show some of the lessons I learned during the last few years. First, it doesn’t take as much money as you think to achieve financial freedom but you have to stay focused on your goal. Realize that made you successful in your job today may not be sufficient for you to be successful as a real estate investor. Be numbers driven and get emotions out of financial decisions. Finally take action. Any action is better than inaction in my opinion.

On October 2014, one of my 2 sons came to me because he wanted to do real estate investments. It gave me mixed feelings. My real estate experience so far was not as successful as I wanted it to be. His announcement brought me back to my very first real estate investment. I was young, fearless, and nothing to lose. I was in my second year of university with $125 in the bank. I was introduced to this real estate mentor who showed me how to do a deal one move at a time. I wasn’t afraid because I didn’t know what to be afraid of and worked tirelessly to find an 8 units apartment building that would work cashflow with a seller who was willing to give me loan in second position. Closed with no money down! But it was bitter sweet because I didn’t see the value in property management so I became the property manager and the maintenance guy. Let’s just say it was not for me.

Just a little background about me before moving on. I graduated in Math and worked as an Actuary in Canada. Most of my actuarial career was dedicated to converting defined benefit plan to defined contribution plan. In 2000, my wife, my 2 boys (5 and 3 at the time), and I moved to the SF bay area. As an actuary I knew that I wouldn’t be able to retire comfortably unless I changed the path I was on. As a father I wanted to leave a legacy for my children. As entrepreneurs, my wife and I tried multiple businesses that would generate passive income.

Back to my son who is waiting on my answer while trying to figure out my inner dialog. My answer? “Sounds great. How do we do that?” Turns out that FortuneBuilder was the answer. FB has a great program for people who are new to real estate investment which was perfect. The two of us tried to put some deals together but living in the SF Bay Area it was nearly impossible. My older son was graduating in entrepreneurship and he wanted to do business so he joined us in this venture. We pivoted a few times since 2015 until we found our footing in Single Family rentals out of state.

February 2017: We bought, rehabbed and rented out our first single family rental in Memphis. BRRR

April 2017: Bought 1 more SF rental in Memphis.

July 2017: Sold 1 rental and bought 1 rental in Memphis. Word got out to our friends and family about our investments and some of them started investing with us.

August 2017: Built a team in Cleveland and St Louis. Bought a fourplex in St Louis, 1 single family (SF) in Cleveland, and 1 more SF in Memphis. At this point our buyer’s list was growing.

Sept-Dec 2017: 4 more deals.

2017: Bought 10 deals and sold 5 deals. The deals that were not sold are still cash flowing today as part of our portfolio.

January to July 2018: We bought 15 more houses, rehabbed them, rented them and sold 10 of them to our growing investor list.

August to December 2018: Sold our primary residence in August. Like I said, be numbers driven. I used the gains to invest in out of state rental properties, used the passive income to pay the rent on a bigger better house for us in the Bay Area. Bought 34 properties including a 20 unit apartment building in mid town Memphis. Sold 11 more properties.

2019: We are on target to more than double what we did last year, including 4 multifamily properties. I also quit my lucrative consulting gig to focus entirely on real estate.

Thanks for sharing your story, Eric! I've been doing some of the same stuff as you over the past few years (albeit at a much smaller scale), and we're actually working a lot of the same areas within the Cleveland market (in some cases our properties have been like 500 feet apart), and interestingly I'm even using the same PM as you. I've been following your purchases and sales for a while (MFR 5), and have been impressed. I'm glad to see you're finally establishing a presence on BP!

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  • Real Estate Broker · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2016 · 530 posts · 398 votes
    6y

    Great story. Thanks for sharing. Best of luck with your investing journey out west!

  • Rental Property Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 214 posts · 270 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Eric Martel:

    Dear BP! I just wanted to share my story with all of you and hope that it will motivate you and give you hope. My story will show some of the lessons I learned during the last few years. First, it doesn’t take as much money as you think to achieve financial freedom but you have to stay focused on your goal. Realize that made you successful in your job today may not be sufficient for you to be successful as a real estate investor. Be numbers driven and get emotions out of financial decisions. Finally take action. Any action is better than inaction in my opinion.

    On October 2014, one of my 2 sons came to me because he wanted to do real estate investments. It gave me mixed feelings. My real estate experience so far was not as successful as I wanted it to be. His announcement brought me back to my very first real estate investment. I was young, fearless, and nothing to lose. I was in my second year of university with $125 in the bank. I was introduced to this real estate mentor who showed me how to do a deal one move at a time. I wasn’t afraid because I didn’t know what to be afraid of and worked tirelessly to find an 8 units apartment building that would work cashflow with a seller who was willing to give me loan in second position. Closed with no money down! But it was bitter sweet because I didn’t see the value in property management so I became the property manager and the maintenance guy. Let’s just say it was not for me.

    Just a little background about me before moving on. I graduated in Math and worked as an Actuary in Canada. Most of my actuarial career was dedicated to converting defined benefit plan to defined contribution plan. In 2000, my wife, my 2 boys (5 and 3 at the time), and I moved to the SF bay area. As an actuary I knew that I wouldn’t be able to retire comfortably unless I changed the path I was on. As a father I wanted to leave a legacy for my children. As entrepreneurs, my wife and I tried multiple businesses that would generate passive income.

    Back to my son who is waiting on my answer while trying to figure out my inner dialog. My answer? “Sounds great. How do we do that?” Turns out that FortuneBuilder was the answer. FB has a great program for people who are new to real estate investment which was perfect. The two of us tried to put some deals together but living in the SF Bay Area it was nearly impossible. My older son was graduating in entrepreneurship and he wanted to do business so he joined us in this venture. We pivoted a few times since 2015 until we found our footing in Single Family rentals out of state.

    February 2017: We bought, rehabbed and rented out our first single family rental in Memphis. BRRR

    April 2017: Bought 1 more SF rental in Memphis.

    July 2017: Sold 1 rental and bought 1 rental in Memphis. Word got out to our friends and family about our investments and some of them started investing with us.

    August 2017: Built a team in Cleveland and St Louis. Bought a fourplex in St Louis, 1 single family (SF) in Cleveland, and 1 more SF in Memphis. At this point our buyer’s list was growing.

    Sept-Dec 2017: 4 more deals.

    2017: Bought 10 deals and sold 5 deals. The deals that were not sold are still cash flowing today as part of our portfolio.

    January to July 2018: We bought 15 more houses, rehabbed them, rented them and sold 10 of them to our growing investor list.

    August to December 2018: Sold our primary residence in August. Like I said, be numbers driven. I used the gains to invest in out of state rental properties, used the passive income to pay the rent on a bigger better house for us in the Bay Area. Bought 34 properties including a 20 unit apartment building in mid town Memphis. Sold 11 more properties.

    2019: We are on target to more than double what we did last year, including 4 multifamily properties. I also quit my lucrative consulting gig to focus entirely on real estate.

    Thanks for sharing your story, Eric! I've been doing some of the same stuff as you over the past few years (albeit at a much smaller scale), and we're actually working a lot of the same areas within the Cleveland market (in some cases our properties have been like 500 feet apart), and interestingly I'm even using the same PM as you. I've been following your purchases and sales for a while (MFR 5), and have been impressed. I'm glad to see you're finally establishing a presence on BP!

  • Rental Property Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2015 · 64 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    @Robert Matelski Thank you Robert. Scale happens. We started with 1 house in Memphis a couple of years ago. I really enjoy the BP community. People are so knowledgeable and willing to share ideas, etc. It is inspiring.

  • Gurshan BansalPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2019 · 29 posts · 20 votes
    6y

    Thanks for sharing! As a new Memphis investor, this gives me mega confidence! Eric for the win! Why did you decide on the Memphis market?

  • Los Angeles · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    What an inspiring story! Teaching your son the "How To" of Real Estate investing will be a life long gift that keeps giving back. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    6y

    Good job man !

  • NYC, NY · Member since 2016 · 617 posts · 456 votes
    6y

    Congratulations on your success.

    You would be one of the few that succeed big with FB.  Did you do the full program?  If so, how much did it cost you after the initial 2 day event?

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2018 · 64 posts · 7 votes
    6y

    @Karen O.Are you assuming or knowing only a few FB succeeded? If you don't know how much it costs for the program then how do you determine the level of success -- big or small?

  • NYC, NY · Member since 2016 · 617 posts · 456 votes
    6y

    @Adam Harper I attended a FB multi-day event in 2016. The room started off with over 400 people.  Was down to maybe 100 people by the end.  And most of those didn't sign up for the expensive FB training/mentorship which was quoted as either $40K or $50K... I can't remember.  I do recall that they were encouraging people to max out their credit cards to sign up for their program. So based on the #s alone, I suspect the # of success stories from those who attend FB events and ultimately find success with it are few.  I am glad that someone seems to have found sucess, though.  

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2018 · 64 posts · 7 votes
    6y

    @Karen O. So you do know how much the the program cost. 50k to build a successful real estate company I would do it in a heartbeat if I have time to devote to real estate. I’m considering to buy properties from Martel Turnkey that’s why I end up in this thread. Passive is all the time I can afford now.

  • Rental Property Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2015 · 64 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    @Gurshan Bansal The criteria we used to identify markets were Landlord friendly states, steady growth, low unemployment, business diversification. Good employers like Amazon and Fedex, etc.

  • Rental Property Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2015 · 64 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    Just wanted to update you on our progress. In 2019 we ended selling 85 Single Family rentals and own 100 units in midtown Memphis.

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