[Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal - NJMult Family Property

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  • Rental Property Investor · Greenwich, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    So, this is going to be a house hack, @Moustafa Ahmed? What's the plan, rent out one unit and live in the other? Will you have roommates in your unit?

    Regarding your analysis:

    • PMI will probably be 2X that. Confirm with your lender.
    • You're forgetting repairs. Figure 15% combined with CapEx.
    • Insurance looks a little low. Have you received a quote from a local insurance agent?
    • Budget for management (10%), even if you plan to self-manage in the beginning.
    • How much shopping have you done for the loan? I bet you can find something without points.
    • What about water/sewer, lawn care/snow removal, any other house utilities?

    My math shows you almost $500/month in the red after you move out.

  • Investor · Maplewood NJ · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 15 votes
    6y

    @Jaysen Medhurst 

    Thank you for taking time out to review and yes my wife and I would be house hacking, below are my responses hopefully it provides clarity: 

    • * PMI will probably be 2X that. Confirm with your lender. - Confirmed w/ Lender on the amount
    • * You're forgetting repairs. Figure 15% combined with CapEx.- Got it
    • * Insurance looks a little low. Have you received a quote from a local insurance agent? It was from Lemonade, but im waiting to hear from from an All State Agent 
    • * Budget for management (10%), even if you plan to self-manage in the beginning - I will be self managing but will run to be conservative
    • * How much shopping have you done for the loan? I bet you can find something without points. - So this is kind of tricky, due to religious beliefs i'm limited to Islamic financing which this lender is the most competitive thus far
    • * What about water/sewer, lawn care/snow removal, any other house utilities? How do you usually handle snow removal? No Lawn and Tenant will pay house utilities 
    • One thing to mention, the property tax is actually half of what i had within my report (confirmed with tax assessor)
    • In addition, i'm not including rent from the fully furnished basement (1.1-1.3k) in my area - would you recommend i include?
  • Rental Property Investor · Greenwich, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    @Moustafa Ahmed, the previous listing had this at $529k, but you have $570k in your analysis. Why the discrepancy? Also looks like it's off the market.

    • Good news about the taxes, that should get you to at least break even.
    • Why do you think the tenant will pay house utilities (e.g. common hallway lights)? Those are almost always the owner's responsibilities. Water/sewer at very least. You may be able to sub-meter or do RUBS, but be aware that may put you at a competitive disadvantage.
    • Some management companies handle snow removal, in other cases it's a separate expense. Since you're self-managing to start, I guess get a good shovel.
    • Is the basement a legal unit? If not, don't include and don't try to rent it out. If the town finds out you could be in a world of hurt.

    I wouldn't buy this as a pure investment property, but as a way to lower your living expenses, build equity, and get some experience as a land lord, it may be worth doing.

  • Investor · Maplewood NJ · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 15 votes
    6y

    Thanks for the information / reality check Jaysen. 

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