First time investor analyzing triplex needs deal analysis help!

First time investor analyzing triplex needs deal analysis help!

Real Estate Agent · MN · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 3 votes

We have an off-market deal for a triplex, specifics are below. It looks like the initial returns are below what we would target, but there might be potential with some improvements to the property.

Asking: $220K

Down: 20% ($44K)

Initial Improvements: $15K (minor upgrades to flooring, bathrooms and kitchen)

Other potential costs: $20K estimate to separately meter units (current landlord pays utilities at $375/month), $23K to renovate basement into additional unit

Gross rent today with no upgrades: $2415 / Rent estimate with minor upgrades: $2600 / Rent estimate with upgrades and additional unit: $3200 - $3450

Assuming 8% management fees (confirmed), 8.5% vacancy, 11% maintenance, 10% capex and accounting for snow removal and lawn care, the triplex only cash flows $186 total/month ($63/unit) on current rents and $356 ($118/month) on improved rents. Cash on cash return is a dismal 2.7% unimproved and 5.2% with improved rents.

IF everything goes well with the conversion to a 4-plex, then the total initial investment (down payment, closing, $15K rehab, $20K utilities separation) increases from $82K to $105K (finishing basement unit at $23K). With that done, cash on cash goes to 10%-13% depending on rent ranges and cash flow improves to $875 to $1175/month ($218 to $296/unit at 4 units). 

This would meet our criteria! But it feels like we're "buying" that return by putting in $105K when the property costs $220K and it's unclear whether we would be able to refinance out any of that equity given the ARV would probably not increase by the full improvement cost given neighborhood comps.

Any suggestions on the deal or how we should be thinking about this would be great!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Greenwich, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    I don't know your market at all, @Sandra Reid, but this looks marginal at best right now. A few things to think about:

    • 21% combined for CapEx and Maintenance is pretty high. I use 15% in my standard underwriting.
    • The payback period for the cosmetic upgrades is nearly 7 years. Is that worth it? Perhaps you do it over time when units turn.
    • $20k to split out the water meter does not seem worth it to me. I doubt the water bill is more than ~$120/month. That's a nearly 14-year payback period. You also need to think about the local market. If every other apartment includes water/sewer in the rent, you'll be putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage.

    Regarding the basement unit. 

    • Does your zoning allow for another unit? 
    • Have you spoken to an architect and/or GC about the conversion? There are additional code requirements regarding egress and other issues when it comes to basement units, which can make it cost prohibitive.
    • I would definitely keep your rent expectations on the lower side. Garden units don't command as much rent as other. 
    • How much do you expect this will increase your ARV? Remember, higher value = higher taxes.
  • Architect · Seattle, WA · Member since 2017 · 160 posts · 81 votes
    6y

    @Sandra Reid, I'd also confirm with your lender that you will only need to put 20% down, standard with the folks I've worked with for non commercial loans have been 25% for non owner occupied. 

  • Real Estate Agent · MN · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    @Jaysen Medhurst Thank you so much for this detailed response. It really helps and I appreciate you taking the time to help us. Hope you have a great day Sandra

  • Real Estate Agent · MN · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    @David Edwards We thought the same too but we did speak with a lender yesterday who would do 20% but I think we’re going to pass on this deal and keep looking. Hope you have a great day and that’s for chiming in!

  • Architect · Seattle, WA · Member since 2017 · 160 posts · 81 votes
    6y

    @Sandra Reid good idea to keep that lenders number then. Happy hunting!

  • Rental Property Investor · Haddonfield nj · Member since 2016 · 46 posts · 24 votes
    6y

    I wish I knew your market better so I could give you better advice. My first thought was your management, vacancy and maintenance are really high. If you are doing a full rehab maintenance should be minimal. Where I am in NJ/PHL we underwrite with a 4% vacancy and 4% management fee.  How long do you plan on holding the property? 

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