And they said I would never do it!! If I can, SO CAN YOU...

And they said I would never do it!! If I can, SO CAN YOU...

Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes

Hi everyone! My name is Aaron Yates. I just found this site a couple days ago but have been glued to it for 3 days now. I love it. I needed this years ago so my venture could have been a lot easier for me to get where I am. But now I plan to be an avid member. I have been reading a lot of posts from people wanting to get into Real Estate. It seems wholesaling is the most popular.

I myself currently invest in SFR rental houses but am educating myself with reading and the help of members here to expand my company, and yes into wholesaling because I need capital.

I don't know if I consider my story a success story completely because I haven't reached my goal. But what I would like to do is help to inspire all of the aspiring investors who think they can't do it or have those people in their life who do nothing but give negative feedback to you when you talk about your dreams and goals.

I am going to try and keep this as short as I can but I want people to get the full picture. I want you to see that anything is possible if you truly want it. I honestly could write a book about my story and have been really contemplating it. But again, have no clue how to or where to even start to do it. I obviously won't give all the hardships in my life in this post. I will stick to what most of you will be able to relate to.

I'm not a millionaire (yet) by any means. Just a normal working JOE still building my dream.

I started getting interested in Real Estate in my early 20's ( I am now 36). When I would talk to people about it they would give the normal responses of "that's stupid', "you can't do that", " it's a scam" and on and on and on... I'm sure many of you deal with this as I still do to this day, but just not nearly as much.

I was broke. I installed hardwood floors, delivered pizzas, managed pizza stores, worked in a mail room, poured concrete, installed custom car audio.. and any other job that would put food on my table and pay the bills. I truly did live check to check. Lived on my best friends living room floor, my grandmas basement, with my Uncle, and finally was able to save up $1200 to pay back rent on a 1950's trailer in a dumpy park that I got for free.

This is all real. I promise you. There is more, but I want you to get the picture of where I started and the path I had to get me where I am today. I have no college degree or college experience. Just a high school diploma and a graduating score of 1.8 GPA. I tell you this because I know there are people out there like me that think that can't do this. But you can, if you truly want to!

In July of 2003 I was fortunate to get into the auto industry as a robot programmer due to a "friend" owning a company. And now I'm sure you are saying, oh of course, he got a good job. Well the pay isn't what you would think when you go from installing hardwood floors to a job you have no clue of what it is or how to do it. But a joke at a bachelor party led me to getting the job as well as my drive, motivation, and eagerness to better myself.

But my dream was still to do Real Estate. So in February or March of 2004 I bought the Carleton Sheets Real Estate Education Kit. This kit cost me $100 and I had 30 days to review it.

So I reviewed the books and documents in it without opening any of the discs because I knew I would have to return it. I was broke and needed that $100. Meanwhile, my cousin was my roommate and I got the constant negative comments from him just like everyone else gave me. So I eventually shut down and locked the dream away in the closet.

Fast forward to November of 2008. I had been programming now for 5 years. I worked crazy hours. 84 a week normally. So even though I didn't make much straight time, the overtime banked fast. I decided to buy a live-in flip and rent out my small 2 bedroom house I was currently living in. I had no knowledge of anything. I just jumped in head first.

Here is the sequence of events broke down:
November 2008 - Got married
Found distressed property and put in offer
Found tenants for my 2 bedroom home that I paid$725/month
plus paid $150 or so for a home improvement loan. Rented
the house out for $650. Do the math.. Already made my first
mistake.

January 17th, 2009 - Closed on new property using financing. Started rehabbing
February 2009 - 2 weeks after closing on the new house I was laid off.
March 2009 - Wife got pregnant
November 2009 - Son was born
December 2009 - Ran out of savings and Filed bankruptcy, lost my new truck,
my rental (well kind of, that's for another post) and was broke
again. By the way, this was the 2nd time in my life I had to
file bankruptcy. How humbling, embarrassing and sad is that!
January 2010 - Finally back to work - forgot about my real estate dream again
Worked steady from this point on. Lots of hours!!
February 2011 - Real Estate dream kicked back in
April 2011 - bought my first cash property, repaired the minor issues, and has
been rented out ever since.
Spring 2012 - had enough money saved to buy another property.
July 2012 - bought my 2nd cash property, rehabbed, sold on land contract 3
weeks later (just started the rehab process and posted ads to get
ahead of the game. I didn't really know what I was doing. I was
scared if I waited to long I wouldn't find a buyer in time) with the
buyer giving $7500 EMD towards the $15K down payment on a
$43,500 purchase. I had @22,000 total into the property.
November 2012 - Closed on Land Contract deal and Bought 3rd cash property
and started rehabbing using the $15K from land contract deal
February 2013 - bought 3rd property from money saved from my J.O.B. and
rehabbed.
June 2013 - Rented out 3rd and 4th property, bought 5th cash property using
saved money again from long term project I was on and am
currently working on it using rental income from occupied properties.

To this day, I have never paid myself a penny from my properties. I reinvest everything!

Obviously there is much more detail involved in the process but I wanted you as a newbie to understand that you can do this. In my situation I have had to use my own money due to my credit and the market issues we currently have. I never completely gave up on my dream. No I am still not rich because of my JOB or my properties. I just don't over spend my income.

In fact now that I have been able to accomplish this, my dreams and goals keep changing and growing. This was able to happen for me because I finally started educating myself. I created a plan and goals. I overcame my fear. I am passionate and driven to accomplish my dreams. When I get knocked down, I get back up and become stronger from it.

I don't have the luxury of private lenders, mortgage companies throwing money at me or even partners. I travel a lot for work (50%-75%)! In fact I just returned from a 7 month project in White Marsh (Baltimore), Maryland. I am finally going to attend my first REIA meeting tomorrow July 18th and I am so excited to finally be meeting local investors in my area. I need this to educate myself more, grow my company, achieve my dreams, and help people like me when I first got started.

So my point of this post is to tell you that if you keep saying you don't have time, or you don't know people, or whatever else you tell yourself, they are all just excuses. It's your FEAR stopping you. Read books, connect with people on this site (I REALLY WISH I found this site years ago!!)

No this venture has not been easy. I have lost thousands of dollars in this venture because of my own stupidity, not being properly educated, and not screening my contractors correctly on one of my properties that I wasn't able to work on myself due to being gone for my JOB. I'm sure I will have bad deals in the future as well. But that's part of the territory.

I hope this inspires any of you that have that deep passion to invest in Real Estate! Whether small or big, if you want to do it, then make it happen. I see a lot of the same posts on here from new users and the same questions. I don't mean to be rude, but a lot of those questions can be answered by taking the time to read posts, books, and other sites offering similar information.

I am and always will be learning myself, but one thing that makes it easier for me when I ask a question is if I have a more specific question instead of a broad general "how do I start investing in Real estate?". This allows for better answers and a better understanding.

This site definitely gives a person information overload but that's good. And it's good that you want to learn everything you can and learn it fast. But start with your plan and your goals. Decide what you want to do in Real Estate. How are you going to accomplish your plans and goals (these will always change as your investing progresses)? When you come up with these, then your questions will be more precise and you will get better and more precise feedback from members on here.

Make sure you write your plans and goals down. This helps you remember and allows you to process it better. Just thinking of them doesn't allow for it to be imprinted on your brain. Well at least for me it doesn't.

Crazy as it may be, Jim Carey wrote himself a $1,000,000 check years ago before making it big. He would drive up on Mulholland Drive and tell himself he was going to live there and he will make millions of dollars one day.

He did it!! Not in his original planned timeline, but he did it.

Robert Kiyosaki uses this in his seminars. I wrote my check on 8-25-2012 and carry it in my wallet. It is dated to be cashed on 8-25-2017.

It's a mindset. If you tell yourself you can, you will. Read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" by Robert Kiyosaki and "Think And Grow Rich" by Napolean Hill. Both are great books! Both will help your change your way of thinking, your process, and help you move in the direction you want to go.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I look forward to meeting and connecting with more members on BP and growing together.

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SFR Investor · Southfield, MI · Member since 2012 · 70 posts · 19 votes
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Single Family Rental

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  • SFR Investor · Southfield, MI · Member since 2012 · 70 posts · 19 votes
    13y

    Single Family Rental

  • Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes
    13y

    Josh Hyman, actually Single Family Residence, then you have Multi-family Residence, Apartment Complex ( which fall under commercial lending sometimes), and Commercial which would be retail locations or warehouse type properties.

  • College Park, MD · Member since 2013 · 35 posts · 2 votes
    13y

    Amazing post. Thanks for sharing your story. I wish you much success!

    --Uchenna

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    Investor · Thermopolis, WY · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    @Aaron Yates , great post. If it helps, lack of cash is probably the most common problem with getting into real estate. I am very impressed by the fact that you do not take any money out of your real estate investments. I have been doing real estate investing for over 20 years on the side and have not taken any money from it whatsoever. My plan is to have a very solid retirement that allows me to do what I want. Don't forget to stop and smell the roses once in awhile though. It's easy to get so busy we forget to do that. Best Wishes from Wyoming.

  • Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2012 · 251 posts · 9 votes
    13y

    What a great story.. You got tear from my eyes.. Trust me it is really hard for someone see me saying this but you rock...

  • Rental Property Investor · Upstate, NY · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y

    @Aaron Yates

    Very inspiring & you are without doubt the epitome of "NEVER GIVE UP' ...... (& we have all been there).

    BUT as I shared your story with my wife (Marianne) her comment was...

    "He must have an amazing wife" !!!!

    so with all sincerity we wish you BOTH all the best.

  • Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes
    13y
    Originally posted by Jerry W.:
    @Aaron Yates , great post. If it helps, lack of cash is probably the most common problem with getting into real estate. I am very impressed by the fact that you do not take any money out of your real estate investments. I have been doing real estate investing for over 20 years on the side and have not taken any money from it whatsoever. My plan is to have a very solid retirement that allows me to do what I want. Don't forget to stop and smell the roses once in awhile though. It's easy to get so busy we forget to do that. Best Wishes from Wyoming.

    @Jerry W. , I understand what you mean. I'm am realizing this right now. I'm so caught up in finding funding to grow because I had such a big growth over the past year that it's all I think about and do.

    Last night in fact is the first night I came home and just forgot about Real Estate in over a year. I spent time with my family in my truck attempting to put my kids DVD headrests in (finally). Today I'm spending it with them also.

    Of Course Real Estate is in the back of my mind but I"m not doing anytihing Real Estate related today in regards to my properties or searching for more. I"m stopping to smell the Roses today!! Thank you.

  • Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes
    13y

    @Patricia Franciulli , Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the post. I'm at the next biggst obstacle I have come across in my investing. Finding private money. The whole reason I have had to use my own money.

    I've had some days the past few weeks that I wanted to throw in the towel and it would be so easy to do so. But I'm dealing with it and decided to try to sell one or two of my rentals instead for now while still looking for private investors.

    There are plenty of properties in my market that I can replace 2 for 1 again right now but obviously are distressed properties needing rehab. Plus I have a new source for flips but need cash to do so.

    @Pat L. , ha ha ha.. yeah she has been great. She's the only one in my life that has ever supported me. Not one single family memeber or friend has ever supported my dream. Most of them even flat out told me I would never be able to do it. Between that and having no money, it took me almost 10 years till my first real attempt in real estate in January of 2009.

    But now she's tired of all my real estate talk.. ha ha ha.. I'm like one of our kids to her now. I talk.. she hears bla bla bla bla and just says "ok" ha ha ha ha

  • Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2012 · 251 posts · 9 votes
    13y

    @Aaron Yates I am in the same situation as you. I had a short sale back in 2010 and I cannot get any kind of finance. Everything is cash. That is why I prefer flips because is cash flow for me instead of rentals. Here is the rental market is saturated because of he hedge funds that brought everything to rent. I am starting to think about move to another place where I can still flip home for a profit which here you still find but with lots of work and low profit..

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 744 votes
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    Patricia,

    I had lunch with one of my banker friends yesterday and was told that the Gaylord brothers were looking forward to buying REOs in Vegas.


    Joe Gore
  • Rental Property Investor · Upstate, NY · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    @Patricia Franciulli

    As a matter of interest what % are you guys looking for.

    I go for 20-25%

  • Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2012 · 251 posts · 9 votes
    13y

    @Account Closed What do you mean?

  • Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2012 · 251 posts · 9 votes
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    @Pat L. I am not looking for hard money lender actually plus here in town the highest you get is 12%. I was kind of confused when you talking about 20%-25%.. But thank you I am not interested..

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 744 votes
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    Patricia,

    What I was saying when the Gaylord brothers come into town they buy everything in site, and nothing left for the little guy.



    Joe Gore

  • Rental Property Investor · Upstate, NY · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y
    Originally posted by Patricia Franciulli:
    @Pat L. I am not looking for hard money lender actually plus here in town the highest you get is 12%. I was kind of confused when you talking about 20%-25%.. But thank you I am not interested..

    I meant return

    We buy it for y=(x + rehab $) then sell it for (y + 20-25%)

    We pay cash

    So I was just curious about your margins there

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2012 · 289 posts · 74 votes
    13y
    Thanks for sharing your inspirational story. Positive thinking and reenforcement is everything.
  • Investor · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2013 · 19 posts · 0 votes
    12y

    Great post @Aaron Yates

  • Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Chris Cook:
    Great post @Aaron Yates

    Thanks Chris. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Investing isn't easy as TV likes to portray. But it does get easier as things go along.

  • Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2014 · 22 posts · 9 votes
    12y

    Aaron That is so encouraging thank you . I really needed those encouraging words.

  • Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes
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    Originally posted by @Felecia Sewell:
    Aaron That is so encouraging thank you . I really needed those encouraging words.

    Thats why I share my experiences. I want other people to not give up!!

    I read your profile before posting this. One thing I will share that I have not mentioned on here before...

    I initially was obsessed with flipping. I only invested in rentals because I couldnt get funding and had to do what I financially was capable of.

    After the second property and seeing people so happy with the housing i provide i was hooked. I rehab my properties better than many landlords and have my reasons for doing so.

    But it is awesome to be able to help people when others wont. I have had a hard life prior to entering the auto industry. Most would NOT help me in any way and I did what i needed To survive.

    Literally lived in basementa and on living room floors. So to be able to help others now is completely amazing.

    But most people dont see that side of me. They see an investor who must be rich and heartless or crazy to invest in because there is no money in real estate right now.

    Too bad thats not the truth. Thats ok though because the few that i make happy and building a strong future for my family is what matters.

    Dont tell too many people this though. They will just think u are crazy... not to mention me...

    If this is your dream, dont give up. Whether its one property or 100. Do what you can and get rid of the negative people in your life.

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 1 vote
    12y

    @Aaron Yates truly inspiring and as many have said before me, thank you for posting. I'm getting started late in life and find myself encountering some similar problems you have (nay-sayers, credit issues, lack of cash) and it's really helpful to hear someone having gone through it/going through it and succeeding. Thank you again for sharing!

  • Investor · Port Colborne, Ontario · Member since 2013 · 137 posts · 31 votes
    12y

    Aaron,

    I have realized that even after 10 years of real estate investing and the ups and downs that it is not a get rich quick business. Every time I get into one of my lows I remember all the people like yourself and so many others who are super successful in life that always go through a down stroke at one point or another.

    I listened to the story of the guy that owns Second Cup ( a coffee shop in Canada) and how he was living on the street and with the help of one mentor who just encouraged him to be a better person took a nothing company and built it into an empire.

    For every person out there starting out there are going to be ups and downs, good deals and bad, but ultimately it is part of the journey. The best thing you can get is a good education, and hopefully a good mentor. It is especially hard when you have been kicked a few times. Its too easy to give up.

    Aaron you are a fine example of that solid stick to it attitude that will always keep you moving forward and always towards your success. With the right mindset and attitude anything is possible. Follow your dreams....it is really the only thing that matters. You are already a big part of the way there and accomplished what others only dream of.

    Congratulations.

  • Investor · Macomb, MI · Member since 2013 · 654 posts · 115 votes
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    @Dave Vogt , thank you. I'm not hugely successful yet. But I posted this because of how hard it was for me to at least accomplish the little I have and in the journey have learned some things the hard way.

    I wanted others to see that it's not always easy to invest in Real Estate but that they shouldn't give up if it's truly what they want.

    You know, just last night I got into a debate I'll call it, but a fellow BP'er had the nerve to tell me I will never be successful with my style of investing. It's people exactly like that whom drives down the ambition to newbie investors.

    It drives me crazy that people are so closed minded. He claims I need to follow all the 'Greats' in order to be successful. I reminded him that everyone makes money in real estate in different ways. There is no magic trick or specific way to do real estate.

    Anyways, thank you again for reading my post. It's good to know even investors like you enjoy it and I'm sure you've had some of the heartaches I've had as well considering you've been at it so long.

  • Investor · Port Colborne, Ontario · Member since 2013 · 137 posts · 31 votes
    12y

    It's been a roller coaster ride let me tell you. Don't let others dampen your spirit. I have fired a lot of people in my life and by fire I mean I no longer associate with people that are negative or critical of the things I do. I only surround myself with positive influential people. If they can't talk shop with me I at least have an emotional spiritual bond with them that promotes my positive attitude and/or motivate/inspire me to be a better person.

    The person who is being critical of your investing methods. Take it with a grain of salt. There is nothing that says you have to listen to them. With people like that I typically look at where they are coming from, learn what I can from them, and try and see the good and bad in what they are doing, and consider it just another experience.

    Life is full of heartaches my friend...it's what you do with them that will define you. I personally love proving people wrong. I've been doing it all my life and my dream has always stayed strong and unwavering. In the infamous words of a great french lady I had for tenant (in her broken English)..."We be get there." It's been our motto for a few years now and hey if life really starts getting you roughed up its always fun to throw on Pumba and Timone "Hakuna Matata"

    I do that for my lady when she gets down and we dance around the house to this iconic movie song like idiots. I always feel inspired and happy after that. Just the thought of it makes me smile :-)

  • Investor · Port Colborne, Ontario · Member since 2013 · 137 posts · 31 votes
    12y

    By the way I hope that guy is around her 5 years from now so he can learn a thing or two from one of the greats (YOU!).

    Just my two cents....

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