Alabama Tax Deed Property

Alabama Tax Deed Property

Duluth, GA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 14 votes

I've been purchasing Alabama Tax deed properties for several months and I am running out of resources. I continue to receive these price quotes from the State of Alabama for approximately $5k - $7k. Good rental property that may require some cosmetics but a good buy and hold property for $5k - $7k. Can I transfer the price quotes to someone else? If so, what is the process.

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JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker · Tuscaloosa, AL · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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Make sure you know the redemption rules in Alabama, and don't over-improve. Even with a tax deed, the former owner can still redeem by paying the taxes plus 12% per annum interest.  That redemption period runs for three years after the investor takes possession of the property. If the property contains a residential structure, the former must also pay the value of "preservation improvements" made by the investor, but not additions or upgrades.  The investor gets to keep any rents collected up until the redemption.

You must also make sure the tax sale was not void. The most likely culprits are death of property owner before tax sale, or sale of property to someone else but failure to assess in the new owner's name.  In other words, the wrong person's name was called off at the auction.  If the tax sale is void, the former owner (or heirs) can redeem for the taxes plus interest, but do NOT have to pay you for preservation improvements. Also, you will have to disgorge any collected rents.

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  • Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2015 · 61 posts · 39 votes
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    Pamela

    Could you explain to me this Tax deed situation....? 

    John

  • Investor · DMV Maryland · Member since 2013 · 867 posts · 370 votes
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    @John Davis - his niche is tax liens, and I'm sure he knows a ton about tax deeds as well . 

  • Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 531 posts · 266 votes
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    Price quotes? Resources for what? I'm not sure what you are asking. 

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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
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    If the properties are truly bargains then buy them and resell them at a profit. That is cheap enough you can buy them with a credit card cash advance. 

    You say you have been buying them but otherwise i would be skeptical of the value.

  • Mobile and Baldwin, AL · Member since 2016 · 11 posts · 2 votes
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    Not sure if they can be transferred or assigned .   I considered a tax deed on a  property and filed the application and  the option to buy was good  for 20 days.... then it goes to the next person in line.  I would call Montgomery and ask if assignment of this option to buy  is allowed.

  • Duluth, GA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 14 votes
    10y

    Thanks for the feedback. I will contact the State.

  • Rental Property Investor · Auburn, AL · Member since 2015 · 227 posts · 80 votes
    10y

    How did you get started purchasing these tax deeds?  I would be interested in doing the same thing.

  • Consultant · Ball Ground, GA · Member since 2015 · 228 posts · 100 votes
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    @Helen Kirk you can goto http://revenue.alabama.gov/property/landsales/ and search the site.   These are properties that have gone through the tax sale auction and now the State is selling over the counter.   If the property on the list if less than 3 years from the date of tax sale then you are buying the tax lien.   Greater than 3 years, you are buying the tax deed.   You might also need to check and find out if there is a Judicial process after the 3 years which makes it more like 4 years.  

    Best of luck

    Joe

  • Rental Property Investor · Auburn, AL · Member since 2015 · 227 posts · 80 votes
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    @Joe Mclain I looked at the site.  There  are both assessed values and tax sale values.  Does this mean that they have already been bid upon?

  • Duluth, GA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 14 votes
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    Verdict is in. The State just confirmed to me that I have the option to assign my price quotes to someone else.

  • Duluth, GA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 14 votes
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    If anyone is interested in any of these properties let me know. 

  • Consultant · Ball Ground, GA · Member since 2015 · 228 posts · 100 votes
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    @Helen Kirk You can bid on any of the properties in the list.   That field is kind of misleading.  That is really the amount of the opening bid and no one bid on that property.  Here's an explanation of the fields.   http://revenue.alabama.gov/advalorem/forms/transcr...

    Joe

  • Rental Property Investor · Auburn, AL · Member since 2015 · 227 posts · 80 votes
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    @Joe Mclain thanks for the info.  You've been great and I appreciate that you took the time to pass on your knowledge!

    @Pamela Holmes I would be interested if any of these properties are in Lee County.

  • Mobile and Baldwin, AL · Member since 2016 · 11 posts · 2 votes
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    What  city/cities are the options located in?

  • Wholesaler · Lehi, UT · Member since 2015 · 333 posts · 144 votes
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    In Alabama you have to apply for the tax deed and once an application has been submitted you will receive a price quote from the state department of revenue.  You can submit twenty applications at once if you want but after 40 and you haven't purchased one then you will be banned for a year from submitting applications to purchase.  You should be able to purchase at least one out of 40 in a years time.  It's an easy process.  Sifting through the listings take the most time out of any of it.  There are many to choose from in Alabama.

  • Consultant · Ball Ground, GA · Member since 2015 · 228 posts · 100 votes
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    @Josh Carr let me clarify one item.   In Alabama, they sell over the counter Tax Liens and Deeds.  If the tax sale was less than 3 years old then the buyer will receive a Tax Lien Certificate which the buyer can trade for the tax deed after the 3 year mark.   If the tax sale was greater than 3 years old then the buyer will receive a Tax Deed.  I totally agree with your other comments.  

    Thanks,

    Joe

  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker · Tuscaloosa, AL · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Make sure you know the redemption rules in Alabama, and don't over-improve. Even with a tax deed, the former owner can still redeem by paying the taxes plus 12% per annum interest.  That redemption period runs for three years after the investor takes possession of the property. If the property contains a residential structure, the former must also pay the value of "preservation improvements" made by the investor, but not additions or upgrades.  The investor gets to keep any rents collected up until the redemption.

    You must also make sure the tax sale was not void. The most likely culprits are death of property owner before tax sale, or sale of property to someone else but failure to assess in the new owner's name.  In other words, the wrong person's name was called off at the auction.  If the tax sale is void, the former owner (or heirs) can redeem for the taxes plus interest, but do NOT have to pay you for preservation improvements. Also, you will have to disgorge any collected rents.

  • Wholesaler · Lehi, UT · Member since 2015 · 333 posts · 144 votes
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    @Joe yeah I should have clarified that.  I've been doing this so long that I forget not everyone knows these things.  Thanks for that!

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2015 · 5 posts · 3 votes
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    @Denise Evans What is the end result with lands that are sold but owners are deceased? If investors avoid these and they are never bought from the state, are they destined just sit in limbo forever? Or at least until the current owner needs to clear liens to to sell, refinance, etc? I've got a similar situation on my hands. I have an open quote from the State Land Commissioner that I am very interested in. Sold to state in 2014. Upon research, owner died in 2011 and heirs still occupy the property. Can they fight a void sale even after the deed is issued after 3 years? Or is there a time frame to dispute sales?

  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker · Tuscaloosa, AL · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Account Closed, if the owner died before the tax sale, then the tax sale is void. You can "cure" a void tax sale with 3 years of adverse possession that starts on or after the date a tax deed could have been issued, In other words, you start with the date 3 years after the tax sale, and if some time after that the investor adversely possesses the land for 3 years, then the statute of limitations expires and the heirs cannot claim the tax sale was void. If it was void, you are not entitled to possession and cannot maintain an action in ejectment, but you can at least start ejectment and force them into "redemption." Technically it's not really a redemption if the tax sale is void, but they do have to pay you for the taxes plus interest, and you have a lien on the property for that. If they don't pay, you can foreclose your lien, somewhat similar to a sheriff's auction.

    If the owner died after the tax sale, then their heirs have simple redemption rights. You can file your suit to eject. They will either redeem (and pay your legal fees as part of the redemption costs) or they will default and hopefully you will get possession.

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2016 · 446 posts · 305 votes
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    Originally posted by @Pamela Holmes:

    Verdict is in. The State just confirmed to me that I have the option to assign my price quotes to someone else.

     How is this done?

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Mobile, AL · Member since 2010 · 138 posts · 55 votes
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    @Denise Evans -- What actually constitutes possession?   
    Ex. I'm looking at a home that vacant and in terrible disrepair.  But...  the sellers (or their agent) is actively trying to sell the home for them.  Let's say I'm able to acquire the tax deed from the state (state has had for 3 years) --- do I take physical actions to the property?  do I just call and notify the seller that I now own a tax deed and cloud on their title?  What actually constitutes possession?

    Side thought/question:  how would I actually 'possess' this property for 3 years in order to quiet the title??

  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker · Tuscaloosa, AL · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Brooks Conkle, is there a real estate agent sign on the property? If so, contact the agent to see if they have a current listing agreement. Often, they don't, and are in violation of license law. Once you have the tax deed, you are the owner. Of course, there will still be redemption rights. But, as the title owner you can tell the agent to remove its sign. As either tax deed or tax certificate owner, you can change the locks, secure the windows, and start making repairs. Do the things you would normally do if this were a property you purchased off MLS and wanted to get it ready right away for rental. Tell the neighbors you are the new owner. Put up your own "For Rent" sign. Ask the neighbors to keep an eye on the property and call you if they see anything suspicious. That is a good idea, plus it counts as possession if done in conjunction with acts of physical possession. The neighbors will probably be grateful someone is fixing the property up, and will work with you.

  • Duluth, GA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 14 votes
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    The State of Alabama will no longer submit a name change at the time funds are remitted.  They will only supply the deed under the name of the person applied. I was told the only way to transfer the deed is to do it at the time you record the document. To protect both the buyer and the seller there will need to be a contract in place prior to remitting the funds to the State.

  • Duluth, GA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 14 votes
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    I've received a price quote from the State of Alabama. 

    Parcel# 012300114027017000

    This is a deed For $3,908.62. Valid til October 4. Pleas do your own due diligence. Serious investors only

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