Would you rent to people that work for you?

Would you rent to people that work for you?

Contractor · Maryville, TN · Member since 2021 · 41 posts · 29 votes

Hey guys just wanted to get some advice about people that work for me.

We have been remodeling a duplex I own and they have been asking if they can rent them out once I’m done. My first reaction is don’t mix business! But wanted to ask and see what others thoughts are

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Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
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Just tell them your policy is that you will not rent to anyone you have an existing business relationship with. If you agree to rent to them, how will you handle shoddy or incomplete work? What if they move in and you want to use them for future jobs, but they suck as tenants?

It's the same problem when renting to friends or family. If they don't work out as renters, you lose the renter and the relationship. You're also far more likely to get pushed around than you would by a complete stranger.

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  • Jonathan GreeneBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Madison, NJ · Member since 2016 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    It would be pretty hard to say thanks for fixing up this duplex for me, but I don't want to rent to you. If they are qualified, it seems like a win. Just put them through the same vetting system that you would anyone else, using NTN or something else, and see where they fall.

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  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    4y

    Just tell them your policy is that you will not rent to anyone you have an existing business relationship with. If you agree to rent to them, how will you handle shoddy or incomplete work? What if they move in and you want to use them for future jobs, but they suck as tenants?

    It's the same problem when renting to friends or family. If they don't work out as renters, you lose the renter and the relationship. You're also far more likely to get pushed around than you would by a complete stranger.

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  • Realtor · Monroe, NC · Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    4y

    The positive part is that you know when they get paid, Might could even work it out to take out rent from their pay before they get their check. 

  • Member since 2021 · 53 posts · 34 votes
    4y

    If they are good people, you should definitely consider it. At the end of the day, good people will be good tenants and they will respect your property.

    @Jonathan Greene I second your opinion.

  • Real Estate Broker · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 89 posts · 93 votes
    4y

    I would consider them, but I would screen and qualify them first the same as I would any other prospective tenant. If they are well qualified, I agree, that's a slam dunk. I would certainly give them the opportunity to apply.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y

    Something in my gut says no. It could get messy (them expecting favors because you have a relationship).

  • Scott JohnsonBusiness Member
    Specialist · Greenville, NC · Member since 2019 · 673 posts · 408 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Bryant Blackwelder:

    Hey guys just wanted to get some advice about people that work for me.

    We have been remodeling a duplex I own and they have been asking if they can rent them out once I’m done. My first reaction is don’t mix business! But wanted to ask and see what others thoughts are


    Lean 100% on your property manager (and if you don't have one get one for this). If they know you own the unit tell them that you've signed away all management rights to the property manager and that what they say goes. If they ever come to you trying to get special treatment or complaining, point them in the direction of the property manager. 

    It may turn out great if you manage it yourself, but that's just how I would play it. 

  • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    4y

    This is a tough situation, because they may expect special treatment based on the business relationship. They may think you will just approve them, since you know them. They may expect you to be flexible on rent or other lease terms. If you have a problem, it could affect your business relationship. Maybe you increase rent and all the sudden your subcontractor increases their rate. They just tell you, "cost of living is going up". 

    On the flip side, it could seem unfair to them that you are unwilling to consider their application. If you do entertain their application, explain to them up front that they would need to follow the same standards as other tenants. I would even consider building rent increases into the lease agreement, so they are not surprised later. It is best to over communicate your policies in this case, being clear that things like late fees are non-negotiable. 

    Most people will be good tenants, so this can definitely work out. Just be careful with screening and setting the right expectations.

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    No, too many potential issues. I'd just let them know that I have a strict rule to never rent to friends, family, or business associates. 

  • Investor · Costa Mesa, CA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    No.

  • Investor · Richmond, VA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    @Bryant Blackwelder

    As someone who has done this in the past-- I wish I didn't.    

    Sure, he paid-- but towards the end when he bought his new house he got crappy-- we didn't charge him a deposit because I trusted he would repaint it when he moved (spoiler-- he didn't!), and ruined what was once a great friendship.   It's hard to respect or want to hire someone who craps on you for being nice and renting to them.  Also, when you see how someone actually lives when they move out, it's disgusting, even for "clean" people.   He was our first worker, really bright kid,  he knew so much as far as flooring/painting/etc...  wish I would have said no! 

       If you consider this person a good worker and want them long-term-- I'd say absolutely not.    It sounds counterintuitive, but people change.. keep business--business.

  • James LoffredoBusiness Member
    Lender · Dallas · Member since 2022 · 19 posts · 9 votes
    4y

    I have learned that friends, family, coworkers are always the ones to ask for exceptions that you would not give to a normal tenant. You always want to help the ones that you care for but sometimes it is easy to get taken advantage of. As rates and rental prices go up just imagine having that conversation with them. Do you think it will be easy?

  • John MorganPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    @Bryant Blackwelder

    I rent to people who work for me. They’ve rehabbed 6 or 7 houses for me including the house they’re in now. They’ve been great! And they take care of anything that breaks down at the house.

  • Los Angeles · Member since 2022 · 97 posts · 96 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Bryant Blackwelder:

    Hey guys just wanted to get some advice about people that work for me.

    We have been remodeling a duplex I own and they have been asking if they can rent them out once I’m done. My first reaction is don’t mix business! But wanted to ask and see what others thoughts are

    NO!!! Don't ever rent to someone who works for you because you definitely put yourself in a position where it is impossible to be a boss to your worker, a landlord to your employee and responsible for the income your employee relies upon to pay you the rent he owes you. This situation you put yourself in makes it very difficult for you to make the decision to terminate (fire) your employee, lay off your employee and the situation makes it difficult for you to refuse to give pay raises and other perks to your employee because anything you refuse to do gives your employee the opportunity to use that situation against you.
  • Matthew Irish-JonesBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    @Bryant Blackwelder we have a policy on our handbook we don’t rent to employees. We feel it creates a conflict of interest.

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  • Contractor · Maryville, TN · Member since 2021 · 41 posts · 29 votes
    4y

    Wow! These are all really good advice and I appreciate all of you for sharing. Thank you.

  • Rental Property Investor · Lehigh Valley, PA · Member since 2017 · 200 posts · 191 votes
    4y

    Yes, if they pass the vetting process

  • John RosserPro Member
    Investor · Portage, IN · Member since 2015 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    4y

    If they are just doing ONE job for you, and they do great work, vet them like anyone else.  
    However, if they are your employees or going to be your dedicated contractor steer clear! 

    If you have a slowdown in business, your rent income goes away…?

    If you need to fire them…?

    If you need to evict…?

    If they cant pay rent, guess what, its your fault. Your not getting them enough work etc….

    The money becomes circular and you do NOT have an independent income source. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Bryant Blackwelder:

    Hey guys just wanted to get some advice about people that work for me.

    We have been remodeling a duplex I own and they have been asking if they can rent them out once I’m done. My first reaction is don’t mix business! But wanted to ask and see what others thoughts are


     No. Been down that road. No no no.

  • Rental Property Investor · Conway, AR · Member since 2017 · 146 posts · 75 votes
    4y

    @Bryant Blackwelder

    We did this with one of our employees. Wasn’t terrible, but we made a policy against it from now on.

    Like everyone else has said, it just makes it hard on the tenant relationship and on the employee relationship.

    I recently built a duplex and had one of my carpenters ask if he could rent it, the other carpenter (who rented from me before) told him it’s a bad idea! Haha

    Make it a standard that you don’t rent to family, friends, employees, or anyone you have prior business with and it will help save you a lot of trouble.

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