Checking a Memphis contractor with public records instead of reviews

Checking a Memphis contractor with public records instead of reviews

Josh HandlerPro Member
Contractor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2026 · 61 posts · 70 votes

Somebody asked in another thread how you vet a contractor when reviews can be bought and references are hand-picked. It's the right question, and most of the answers to it come down to vibes. Here's the version built on records instead, specific to Memphis and Shelby County, because a record can't be curated for you.

Full disclosure so you know where I'm standing: I run a construction company here. What follows is a list of ways to check people like me, and I'd rather be checked than talked about.

THE LICENSE, AND ITS LIMIT

Tennessee licenses contractors at the state level, and the important part isn't whether a license exists. It's what's on it. A state contractor's license carries a classification and a monetary limit, which is the largest single project that license is good for. Somebody can be completely legitimate and still be licensed for a number well below your job. Shelby is also one of the Tennessee counties where a Home Improvement License is required for smaller residential work, so a shop doing modest turns should still have something on file. Verify it yourself on the state board's site rather than accepting a photo of a card, and look at the classification and the limit, not just whether the status says active.

LIENS, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS

Shelby County records are public and searchable, and there are two different things to look for.

Liens the contractor has filed against owners. Some of that is normal across a long career. A pattern of it tells you something about how their disputes tend to end.

Liens filed against the contractor by suppliers. This is the check almost nobody runs and it's the loudest signal available. If a lumber yard or a plumbing supply house has filed against them, then the deposit you're about to write is buying material for somebody else's job that finished last spring. That is the actual mechanism behind most of the horror stories on this forum, and it's visible in advance, for free, before you've paid anybody anything.

PERMITS

Memphis and Shelby County issue permits and inspections, and the history is lookup-able. What you learn from it: whether they pull permits at all, what kind of work they actually do versus what their website claims, and roughly how much of it. A company with years of history and no permit record is going to tell you that your job doesn't need one. Sometimes that's even true. Sometimes it's how you end up owning unpermitted work that your refinance appraiser finds later.

INSURANCE, FROM THE CARRIER

Ask for the certificate to come directly from their agent with you named on it. A PDF forwarded by the contractor tells you a policy existed on the day it was issued and nothing about today. Ask specifically about workers' compensation too, because a lot of small residential construction in Tennessee operates under an exemption, and that exemption has real consequences for whose problem it is when somebody gets hurt standing in your house.

THE ONE THAT ISN'T A RECORD BUT IS A NUMBER

Ask for the last five jobs' original contract amount and final contract amount. Not references. The numbers. A shop that can produce that within a day has an office and a system, and on a project of any size that's most of what you're actually paying for. A history that lands consistently eight or ten percent over is more believable than one claiming zero, because on stock this old, zero means they either padded the front end or aren't counting the change orders.

WHAT NONE OF THIS TELLS YOU

Worth being honest about the limits. Records tell you about money and paperwork. They tell you nothing about whether somebody communicates, whether the finish work is any good, or whether they'll be there in week three. The best predictor I know for that last one isn't a record at all. It's how many jobs they're running right now within about twenty minutes of your house. Crews stay where the work is dense. A shop with four jobs in your zip code will be at yours on Tuesday. A shop with one job near you and three across the county gets to you when the route makes sense, and no contract language changes that.

And the part that cuts against my own industry: the reason any of this is necessary is that construction has almost no barrier to entry and almost no public record of quality. Anybody can order a truck magnet. The records above are the closest thing to an audit trail that exists in this business, they're free, and hardly anyone looks at them.

Curious what other people check. Especially anybody who has actually pulled supplier liens before hiring somebody and found something. And I'd like to hear from people outside Memphis about what their county does and doesn't make public, because how much of this is available varies a lot by jurisdiction.

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Nicholas L.Pro Member
Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
6h

@Josh Handler

what about: talking to real humans in person who have worked with them before

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  • Jordan RayBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Memphis, TN · Member since 2023 · 630 posts · 323 votes
    13h

    As an investor and agent here in Memphis who regularly deals with rehabs, I think this is one of the better contractor-vetting breakdowns I've seen because investors tend to focus way too much on the bid itself and not enough on the person or company responsible for executing it. I'd add that trust gets built over multiple projects too. I've had contractors know exactly what my maximum rehab budget was, put everything they legitimately believed the property needed into the scope, and still come back well under my budget. That tells me a lot because they could have easily found another $10K–$20K worth of things to spend money on once they knew what I had available. I also think investors need to remember that the cheapest contractor can become the most expensive contractor very quickly if the job runs months behind, has to be redone, or creates problems during an appraisal or refinance. This is especially important with BRRRR properties because your contractor is directly affecting your timeline, final product, ARV, rents, and ultimately whether you can execute the refinance you underwrote. That's why I'm constantly telling out-of-state Memphis investors that the general contractor is just as important to the boots-on-the-ground team as the investor-friendly agent, property manager, hard money lender, and DSCR lender. We have hard money options locally that can finance 100% of the purchase and 100% of the rehab, with many investors getting into deals with around $10,000 out of pocket, but great financing doesn’t save a bad rehab. Do the public-record homework you laid out, but then start the relationship with a manageable project, watch how they communicate, handle change orders, stay on budget, and solve problems, and let them earn the larger jobs over time. A contractor you can genuinely trust becomes one of the most valuable assets you can have as an investor.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    6h

    Not paying suppliers was a big mess in the GFC .. and very common.. Its why when i fund rehab deals I want to see material man lien releases if there is going to be major items purchased.. Most flips the majority of the money is labor since your not building a foundation or framing a house or putting all new electrical and plumbing in etc.. so you mitigate the risk there.. So for instance I built 90 new homes the last 4 years.. I hired my GC by the door and I PAID all the subs directly and all the suppliers directly so I did not end up with GC taking in big draw and not paying his supplier.

    one subidivions I built we had a 200k Rock bill for roads and utl back fill.. We caught the GC not paying so we paid it directly.. so very good point and a real weak spot for those looking to buy and rehab houses and trust GC's to pay their bills..

  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    6h

    @Josh Handler

    what about: talking to real humans in person who have worked with them before

    • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
      Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
      6h

      Ya most folks are not going to jump on and try to find this stuff in public records its not that easy in most jurisdictions. Just control your money day one.

    • Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
      1h

      Few people truly "know" the difference between a good job and a bad one. The bad ones often don't reveal themselves for a year or more, when you find out what shortcuts were taken, and where they cheaped out on products.

      I'm sure by now most regions have online record access to at least verify a contractors license, and the specifics that it is valid for. Often they also indicate insurance status or other info. That still doesn't guarantee the guys on site, performing the work, are all duly licensed. I've seen more than one contractor "go out of business" under one scandal or another, only to reopen a week later under a different name, but with the same mutts swinging hammers.

      The best you can hope for is to try them on simple, small jobs a few times, and closely follow their progress to see how they work (without interfering or nagging them). Look at the finished job to see that it is 100%, NOT 95% or worse! A few small successes with good organization and communication portends well for future larger projects. BUT, keep an eye on those early jobs, and if something arises, see if they actually stand behind their work and resolve the issue promptly. Once you know the answer to that, and it is a solid yes, then take great pains to keep that vendor for future work. Don't haggle or get pushy. Be honest and clear to keep communications open and build a successful long term relationship.

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