Property Manager · Orange County, CA · Member since 2025 · 319 posts · 78 votes
Entry is one of the easiest places for an owner-tenant relationship to go sideways, and most of it comes down to notice. Four habits:
1. Put it in writing. In California, 24 hours' written notice is generally presumed reasonable (mailed notice takes longer). Check your own state's rules.
2. Say when and why: the date, approximate time window and purpose of the visit.
3. Plan visits for normal business hours. Real emergencies are the exception.
4. Keep a copy of every notice and a short note of what was done at each visit.
Good list, Leo — the written record is the part that saves you later.
Across our 236 doors in Memphis, mostly single-family, we use the same routine every time: written notice with the date, time window, and purpose, sent the same way for every house, and a copy kept in the file. No verbal-only visits, even for a quick look. If the tenant is not home, we leave a note saying we were there and what we checked.
Two things we add: first, we tie entry to the work, not just the visit — if a contractor is coming, the tenant hears the purpose and the time window from us, not from a stranger at the door. Second, we log what was done right after, with photos when it is maintenance. That keeps the next visit, the turnover, and any question about the condition of the house much simpler.
Rules vary by state and lease, so we keep the process the same and check the lease and local rules before we change it. What do you do when a tenant asks to reschedule — do you move it once, or hold the original time?
Good list, Leo — the written record is the part that saves you later.
Across our 236 doors in Memphis, mostly single-family, we use the same routine every time: written notice with the date, time window, and purpose, sent the same way for every house, and a copy kept in the file. No verbal-only visits, even for a quick look. If the tenant is not home, we leave a note saying we were there and what we checked.
Two things we add: first, we tie entry to the work, not just the visit — if a contractor is coming, the tenant hears the purpose and the time window from us, not from a stranger at the door. Second, we log what was done right after, with photos when it is maintenance. That keeps the next visit, the turnover, and any question about the condition of the house much simpler.
Rules vary by state and lease, so we keep the process the same and check the lease and local rules before we change it. What do you do when a tenant asks to reschedule — do you move it once, or hold the original time?
Thanks, Rosina, and tying entry to the work is a great habit. If a tenant asks to reschedule, we'll move it once when the job allows, then confirm the new time in writing so the record stays clean.
I could probably count on my two hands the number of times I entered a currently occupied unit without the tenant being present, and same goes for vendors, over nearly 30 years and hundreds of units. The vendors schedule direct with the tenant...I don't care when they meet, and I surely do not play "middle man" trying to coordinate! The vendor knows the work needs to be completed today or tomorrow unless they contact me to explain a bigger issue. Too many issues can actually occur, or be perceived as occurring by the tenant, it is not worth the additional questions/accusations.
I have chosen to enter to confirm if in fact a unit was still occupied, or for a wellness check, but that was never was problematic.
I do post a notice of entry if the tenant is late and has not communicated. I securely tape a full page across the door and jamb so that anyone opening the door from either side will destroy/disturb the posting making it obvious they are still there. Inspections are always scheduled in advance by phone or email.
Thanks, Richard. The door-and-jamb taping trick is a smart way to show whether anyone has come or gone. Thirty years of letting vendors schedule directly says a lot about how much the tenant relationship carries. We still send the written notice every time so the record is clean if anything is questioned later. Do you find tenants respond better when the vendor reaches out versus the manager?
The direct scheduling puts the onus on the tenant. They choose a time that fits their schedule, and the vendor advises them of a time window that they usually are able to keep. Plumbing companies, for example, have admin staff that makes the initial contact, and they know, based on our repeat and often very long term business, that they need to make that timeframe. If their tech gets held up on a job, they reroute someone else to handle our tenant.
Plumbing and electrical are the critical vendors, lesser issues that just need a handyperson, or appliance issues, easily communicate with tenants about their availability, including "we only work that side of town on Thursdays" or whatever. Tenants actually understand when they hear from the vendor direct, rather than the evil landlord making excuses. It has been extremely rare for any tenant to have a complaint about when or how something was done, and callbacks for re-work have been virtually non-existent. The key for that is proper vetting of the vendors to begin with.
That makes sense—letting tenants choose a workable time and having the vendor own the follow-through keeps scheduling straightforward. I especially like your point about vendors communicating directly when a job runs long, so the tenant isn't left guessing. It sounds like careful vetting and repeat relationships are doing a lot of the work in your process. For a new vendor, do you share those scheduling expectations before the first visit?
Thanks for sharing your perspective, Drew. A consistent, well-documented process sounds useful; what details do you find most important to capture in the entry log?
Hi Leo — this is a clear, practical list, and the fourth habit is the one experienced landlords recommend most: keep a copy of every notice and a short note of what was done. If a dispute ever comes up, that written trail matters far more than anyone's memory of a phone call.
A system that works well is to use one simple entry log for every unit: date and time the notice was sent, how it was delivered, the date and time window of the visit, the reason, and what was found or fixed. Most owners find that a shared template helps here — the same wording each time, with only the dates, purpose, and time window changing — so nothing important gets left out in a hurry.
It also helps to tie the notice to the work, as Rosina mentioned, and to confirm in writing when a tenant agrees to a different time. Keeping lease and state rules beside the template, rather than relying on habit, is good protection too, since notice periods and accepted delivery methods vary.
For first-time landlords, the key takeaway is simple: written notice, a clear purpose, normal business hours, and a filed copy every time. That routine keeps visits calm and professional for everyone.
We work the appointments by giving the contractor the tenant's number, so they can schedule, with a verification email to management. Special caveat: the contractor/maintenance person is instructed that when a tenant asks forsomething extra to be done 'while you're here', is to be responded to with: "I am only authorized to do the job on this list. Any other request must be presented to and agreed to by management."
There are some exceptions--an obvious problem that could be done at the same time instead of making another trip. Example: toilet guts are being replaced. The shutoff valve is leaking. The contractor is instructed to send photo and explanation while on site, and we make immediate decision.
That handoff sounds clear: the tenant and contractor can settle the appointment directly, while the verification email keeps management in the loop. I also like the boundary on add-on requests, with a quick photo and check-in when there’s an obvious issue that can be handled during the visit. That seems like a practical way to avoid surprises without creating an extra trip. Do you use the same approval process for every vendor?