I don't give a frog's fat butt if it makes his job more difficult, and honestly, you have to do math anyway during the course of the loan.

I know people all over vouch for it, but it is just not my thing.BTW the reason the numbers do not "add up" was because we got some money back from a shady contractor that frogged us up.

The doors to each unit are currently interior grade hollow core doors.

Buy in either: - Established, affluent areas: Pacific Heights, Presidio, Cow Hollow, Sea Cliff OR- Tier 2 areas that might become more affluent: Mission Bay, Potrero, Dogpatch, MAYBE "Outer Sunset" (although yes - it's probably in a lower tier than the others) 2) Are we likely to make money if we invest in a cosmetic renovation of an older place or is the cost of labor and materials in SF likely to diminish our potential profits to a negligible amount. 

@DeMario McGhee   welcome to the BP community,  find a local REIA, get good contractors at home depot at 6 am,   good contractors are always busy,  you need an investor-friendly title company,    sometimes you need to kiss a lot of frogs    good luck

How many frogs (offers) did you kiss before you found someone willing to take that offer price?

380 with hollow points.

One of the contractors who was in to give an estimate mentioned my bed and bathroom doors--standard hollow core doors--and said originally they were ugraded solid panel doors for that house.

Wosniak put on a peace and music fest on his dime"Oh geeze......lol So my beach dancing analogy was dead on......lol Here's a much more important question - was there frog licking at this party?"

I know how much I pay for paint, carpet, tile, roofing, gargage doors, solid and hollow core doors, countertops etc.