I am currently building my database of investors for my wholesale deals I place under contract. My question is what happens when you run into another wholesaler? How should you approach that person so theres a win win for both of you?
I am currently building my database of investors for my wholesale deals I place under contract. My question is what happens when you run into another wholesaler? How should you approach that person so theres a win win for both of you?
Matt, I have some good news and some bad news. Which one do you want first.
Well I will give you the bad news first. Many of the wholesalers are not going to work with you because they FEAR that you are there competition.
Good news is that you can go out and create your own buyers list and when you run into another wholesaler you can know that you might have someone for their property.
In times like these when we need to be buying, everyone is wholesaling, but the bad news again is each time you wholesale a deal and you have no passive income, you have to continue the trend. What happens when the well runs dry?
Set your business up to have some buy and holds and if you wholesale one or two then that is gravy. Depending on wholesaling as a viable source of income is like standing on the train tracks and the train is near. Either the train is going to hit you or you are going to get out of the way, just in the nick of time.
If you are a wholesaler and I am a wholesaler, which by the way I am a buy and holder first. But, what would make you better than me or give you the edge over your competition.
I move a lot of inventory and I do what I do because early in my career I set my business up so that I could work on it not in it.
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Yeah, Something like Wholesale 6 keep 1 then repeat.
Douglas, thank you. Would it be a safe goal to say for every 8-10 deals I wholesale, I should perhaps keep one to hold for cash flow?
What did you mean when you meet anogther wholesaler, and you have found someone for there property? There could be a finders fee for passing on the lead?
I don't have a problem working with other wholesalers. They can feel free to market my property to their buyers, but I name my bottom line price and they add their desired profit onto that.
No keep in mind that when you find other wholesalers, you can get a finders fee for having a buyer for that property.
I make sure that it is something that my buyer will want, not just because it is out there and I am trying to pad my inventory because what you will find is that you are holding a lot of properties thta no one wants.
Now, Cucaloco I have to recommend this to you and you might do it, then you might not. I do not allow wholesalers to mark my DEALS up.
Why is that?
If you are good at what you do you should be able to put a fee in the deal that you want and pay the whosesaler a finders fee from your money.
The reason I do this is because as I have seen in the pass, like now you have 6 would be wholesalers trying to market you deal and then you get 6 different prices coming back at you.
Not a good business STRATEGY.
Find the good deals and put the proper price on them and then pay the wholesaler a fee if they can find you a buyer. What is interesting to me I find more of my own buyers than the so called wholesalers.
Why is that? Because everyone wants to be something, that they have not put the time nor the effort into to be.
Hope this was a help to you.
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Douglas is absolutley right on his last post. I always have a drop dead number for my wholesale deals and then I will ad 2-3k on top of that for my sale price and for instances like mentioned above where a wholesaler will find you a buyer. I as well do not believe in having other wholesalers market up my property. I have the extra fee built into my price if a wholesaler finds me a buyer then I pay them. The extra amount also comes in handy near closing time where title insurance, liens or other issues may come up. This way I have extra wiggle room to help out either the buyer or seller.
You can use other wholesalers to help sell your property just tell them the price stays the same and they will get paid from you at closing.
Big E
Thanks Big E.
Heres a question that I am sure will let you know how new I am. When you assign your contract to another investor or buyer, is the fee a percentage of the sale, or a flat fee always? So if the assignment fee is 5k, and if you add 3k, the total amount would be 5k to you, and 3k to the wholesaler who has a buyer for you?
Matt
If you want to be in the game for a long haul, make great money and sell your properties faster then the rest then you will always want to make sure you keep your numbers tight so the end buyer (investor, rehabber etc.) has plenty of room to make money. With that being said, Most wholesalers stick by the 8-10% rule on sales price (50k property should net you 3-5k profit in assignment). Personally I spend my time at the end sales price making sure that I can sell the property at a certain price first. You do not want to get greddy, you want to guarantee you can sell it quick. Some properties I had made 2k and others I have made 15k. A great wholesaler makes sure his end buyer can make good money because that will mean quick and fast repeat business as well as a good word of mouth to other buyers. I always have lots of buyers.
If I had a property at 50k and I new I could sell it at 56k through another wholesaler I would tell them the price is 56k and I will pay you 3k if you sell it. There are times when the wholesaler will make more then me and vice versus. Forget greed and be consonant of the sales price to ensure the buyer has room to make his money- If not your name will get a bad rap and you will not have nay more deals purchased from you
Big E
Hey Big E,
When leaving room for the end buyer to make money, is 60 % - 70% of ARV ok.
Earl
Great question Earl and I am sure there will be plenty of other post. 2-3 years ago The goal was to sell properties to investors at 65-70% ARV. I always was 60-65%. With the current market conditions and the excess inventory of bank owned homes most real cash buyers (the ones that close in 2 days) are looking for 45-50% ARV. Therefore I am looking for properties below these ARV's. Yes there are plenty. This week I purchase a 3bd block home for 28k (from a bank) and sold it for 34k. This property sold in 2006 for 145k was foreclosed on and currently it is worth around 90k. No matter what part of the country you are there are plenty of ways to find these properties. Sometimes you may have to put in several offers on the same houses week after week until the bank finally says yes.
To better answer your question I suggest you simply call up your preferred buyers and ask them what ARV or price point are they looking for. In today's market it will be around 50%