Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Question

Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Question

Real Estate Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2008 · 60 posts · 3 votes

Can you wholesale Fannie mae or freddie mac homes????

Jarci
Thanx in advance

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Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
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Originally posted by Bill Gulley:
Hi, allow be to tweak this a little, 20% profit, you could buy a 100K house, put 40K in it and sell it for 160K. I believe it's also 90 days to conveyance, not contracted....Bill


Nope, not 20% profit, actually 20% above *purchase* price...in fact, it doesn't even say "20%" anywhere in the addendum, it refers to a specific dollar amount, which is 20% above the purchase price.

Here is the exact wording from the FNMA addendum:

"GRANTEE herein shall be prohibited from conveying captioned property to a bonafide purchaser for value for a sales price of greater than $____ for a period of ____ months from the date of this deed."

The asset manager fills in those two blanks (hand written), and in most circumstances the $ amount is exactly 20% above the purchase price and the time period is 3 months.

The only exception to this is when they forget to fill in those blanks (which happens about 20% of the time in my experience), in which case there is no restriction.

And yes, you can put the property under contract for sale at any time...you just can't close for 3 months...

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  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    16y

    Generally, yes you can...

    For the most part, you can wholesale them the same way you wholesale any other REO properties -- using a simultaneous/double close, a land trust, an LLC sale, etc.

    But, keep in mind that FNMA will often put a deed restriction on their properties that disallows the property to be sold within three months for more than 20% above the purchase price. So, if you buy a property for $50K, you won't be able to sell it for more than $60K within the first 90 days.

    As a wholesale, this is probably okay, but it's something to keep in mind.

    Other than that, they can essentially be treated as any other REO property...

  • Real Estate Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2008 · 60 posts · 3 votes
    16y
    Originally posted by J Scott:
    Generally, yes you can...

    For the most part, you can wholesale them the same way you wholesale any other REO properties -- using a simultaneous/double close, a land trust, an LLC sale, etc.

    But, keep in mind that FNMA will often put a deed restriction on their properties that disallows the property to be sold within three months for more than 20% above the purchase price. So, if you buy a property for $50K, you won't be able to sell it for more than $60K within the first 90 days.

    As a wholesale, this is probably okay, but it's something to keep in mind.

    Other than that, they can essentially be treated as any other REO property...

    hey thanx J scott

    is that the 90 rule that has been lifted for a yr?

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    16y
    Originally posted by Jarcelyn Dorsey:

    is that the 90 rule that has been lifted for a yr?


    Nope, different restriction...

    The 90-day rule is a restriction on the buyer to buy the house (via FHA financing)...

    The FNMA restriction is a restriction on the seller (the property, actually). It says that the property can't be sold for more than 20% above your purchase price for three months after you've purchased it.

    So, the FNMA restriction is actually worse, as it disallows you from selling to anyone (for more than 120%), whereas the FHA rule is only in regards to selling to an FHA buyer.

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
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    Hi, allow be to tweak this a little, 20% profit, you could buy a 100K house, put 40K in it and sell it for 160K. I believe it's also 90 days to conveyance, not contracted....Bill

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    16y
    Originally posted by Bill Gulley:
    Hi, allow be to tweak this a little, 20% profit, you could buy a 100K house, put 40K in it and sell it for 160K. I believe it's also 90 days to conveyance, not contracted....Bill


    Nope, not 20% profit, actually 20% above *purchase* price...in fact, it doesn't even say "20%" anywhere in the addendum, it refers to a specific dollar amount, which is 20% above the purchase price.

    Here is the exact wording from the FNMA addendum:

    "GRANTEE herein shall be prohibited from conveying captioned property to a bonafide purchaser for value for a sales price of greater than $____ for a period of ____ months from the date of this deed."

    The asset manager fills in those two blanks (hand written), and in most circumstances the $ amount is exactly 20% above the purchase price and the time period is 3 months.

    The only exception to this is when they forget to fill in those blanks (which happens about 20% of the time in my experience), in which case there is no restriction.

    And yes, you can put the property under contract for sale at any time...you just can't close for 3 months...

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