Raise your scores Dramatically 30-45 days

Raise your scores Dramatically 30-45 days

Eugene, OR · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 0 votes

Sorry, I read the rules after I posted.


Okay so I will use this to give you some free information instead. Some facts about credit repair.

Trying to repair credit on your own is a horrible idea. If you don't know what you’re doing you could permanently damage your credit.

Example: A person may think that they are doing themselves good by sending a copy of a collection showing it's been paid to the bureaus.
Reality: Now that you have provided them documentation that item belongs to you, you have permanently cemented that item on your credit report.

I had a client who had a collection that DID NOT BELONG TO HIM, but he paid it because he thought he could remove it that way. He sent the bureaus this documentation and now that collection although it says paid, it will remain on his report for the entire 7 years.

There are 5 factors to what makes up your credit score.

FIVE FACTORS

Payment History = 35%
Debt Ratio: Balance/Limits = 30%
Length of Credit History = 15%
Types of Credit = 10%
Number of Inquires = 10%

FIVE SOLUTIONS

Remove the "Bad Credit"
"Rapid Rescore" your existing credit
Add a "Seasoned Tradeline"
Add different "Types of Credit"
Remove "Inquires"

The point is that even if you are successful in disputing negative items off your report, you are still only affecting at best... 35% of what makes up your score... make sure you address all 5 factors.

Fact.... Repairing your credit on your own is like defending yourself in a court of law. Knowing what NOT to say is just as important as knowing what TO say.

Many online websites offer dispute your items online options... but they force you to choose a reason you were late or a reason why your account went to collection. Often your reason isn’t posted and often there is no option to choose that the item does not belong to you. Well without knowing many people just choose an option at random and permanently damage their credit by cementing that item on there. They basically unintentionally admitted guilt because the site tricked them into it.

The three credit bureaus make their money by selling credit scores, not by removing items off your report. Who do you think gets their scores pulled more? The guy with 720 middle score or the guy with a 580?

The worse your credit is the more likely it is to get pulled excessively making the bureaus more money. Banks also make more money off worse credit by charging higher interest rates. The scoring modules used by the credit bureaus were not designed to benefit the consumer, they were designed to benefit the banks and credit bureaus.

YOU cannot win the game of credit without understanding the rules..... funny how these rules are nowhere to be found on any of the bureaus websites nor will they send you the rules if you request them.

Coincidence?


Alina D. Nicol
Senior Account Executive

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  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2008 · 257 posts · 58 votes
    17y

    I am interested in how you can help me.

    Why don't you PM me

    I am in the 720's on 2 reports and one if 650.

    I want to get my scores higher. I only have one negative mark on my credit. one. But my numbers are not rising.



    Originally posted by Alina Nicol:
    Sorry, I read the rules after I posted.


    Okay so I will use this to give you some free information instead. Some facts about credit repair.

    Trying to repair credit on your own is a horrible idea. If you don't know what you’re doing you could permanently damage your credit.

    Example: A person may think that they are doing themselves good by sending a copy of a collection showing it's been paid to the bureaus.
    Reality: Now that you have provided them documentation that item belongs to you, you have permanently cemented that item on your credit report.

    I had a client who had a collection that DID NOT BELONG TO HIM, but he paid it because he thought he could remove it that way. He sent the bureaus this documentation and now that collection although it says paid, it will remain on his report for the entire 7 years.

    There are 5 factors to what makes up your credit score.

    FIVE FACTORS

    Payment History = 35%
    Debt Ratio: Balance/Limits = 30%
    Length of Credit History = 15%
    Types of Credit = 10%
    Number of Inquires = 10%

    FIVE SOLUTIONS

    Remove the "Bad Credit"
    "Rapid Rescore" your existing credit
    Add a "Seasoned Tradeline"
    Add different "Types of Credit"
    Remove "Inquires"

    The point is that even if you are successful in disputing negative items off your report, you are still only affecting at best... 35% of what makes up your score... make sure you address all 5 factors.

    Fact.... Repairing your credit on your own is like defending yourself in a court of law. Knowing what NOT to say is just as important as knowing what TO say.

    Many online websites offer dispute your items online options... but they force you to choose a reason you were late or a reason why your account went to collection. Often your reason isn’t posted and often there is no option to choose that the item does not belong to you. Well without knowing many people just choose an option at random and permanently damage their credit by cementing that item on there. They basically unintentionally admitted guilt because the site tricked them into it.

    The three credit bureaus make their money by selling credit scores, not by removing items off your report. Who do you think gets their scores pulled more? The guy with 720 middle score or the guy with a 580?

    The worse your credit is the more likely it is to get pulled excessively making the bureaus more money. Banks also make more money off worse credit by charging higher interest rates. The scoring modules used by the credit bureaus were not designed to benefit the consumer, they were designed to benefit the banks and credit bureaus.

    YOU cannot win the game of credit without understanding the rules..... funny how these rules are nowhere to be found on any of the bureaus websites nor will they send you the rules if you request them.

    Coincidence?


    Alina D. Nicol
    Senior Account Executive



  • Real Estate Investor · marietta, GA · Member since 2008 · 16 posts · 0 votes
    17y

    boy she sounds knowledgeable. i know who i want helping me with my credit problems., you go gurl

  • Battle Creek, MI · Member since 2008 · 87 posts · 11 votes
    17y

    Some good info but people should check out some of the online credit forums before spending a bunch of cash paying someone else to fix your credit.

    Its not rocket science and there are alot of very talented people out there helping others for free.

    Also aren't "Seasoned Tradelines" being neutered in the next edition of Fico?

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    17y

    I heard that as well that "riding" credit lines is just about gone. The credit companies got wise to that.

  • Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2008 · 759 posts · 185 votes
    17y

    My company does credit repair, not as a business, but for our lease-option tenants.

    It is more of an action plan with a focus on changing behaviors and the way a person runs their finances. We have attorneys who dispute items that should not be on their report, and they can also negotiate out of the ones that are valid.

    We quickly found out that it does not always help someone to improve their score and get them into a home, only to have them lose it in 12-24 months because of the bad habits that got them there in the first place.

    There are so many folks that we can not save from themselves, and many people do fail the program. However, when someone is able to buy a home and change their life, there is no better feeling in the world and it makes it all worth the extra effort.


  • Real Estate Consultant · Member since 2008 · 792 posts · 30 votes
    17y

    We quickly found out that it does not always help someone to improve their score and get them into a home, only to have them lose it in 12-24 months because of the bad habits that got them there in the first place.

    Amen.

    How many people really have stuff on their credit report that is completely erroneous?

  • Eugene, OR · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 0 votes
    17y

    Well Truthfully basing your decisions on a program (FICO 08) that has been talked about for years and still has not been implemented makes little sense. In order to Help a client you must first get them into the home then help them rebuild their credit. I agree that removing soe ites and adding a few tradelines is only a temporary solution. Although banks are getting wise to authorized user accounts, they still help improve the scores while your clients rebuild their credit. Educating the client is the most important aspect of repairing their credit. True they could go online to dipute their own items but online isnt going to educate them on how their credit works and how to use their new credit cards properly as well as step by step guidence for an entire year by a credit expert to ensure they don't do something damaging to their credit due to lack of knowledge.

    David. I agree with you. Thats why it is important to change those bad habbits by educating them. Most people who have neggative ites on their credit report DO have inccorect items and are being taken advantage of by collection companies who are ILLEGALLY reporting. This could be due to statute of limitations or even teroristic scare tactics. Most people who have collections have some they don't recognize. It's important that they get good help in determining not only HOW to fix their credit (because it takes much more than just removing the bad) But also how to keep good credit. Remember that although you and I may be able to read a few websites and determine that we need to change a few habbits, most of the world needs a bit of hand holding. Does anyone here really have any clients other than few and far between that get things done wihtout you hounding them?

    However Harrison.... You are right... soe people are what we call a sinking ship. You can't save everyone and it makes little sense to waste time bailing the water out when the ship is going to sink no matter what... Trust me. I turn people away if they are a lost cause.

    You'd be shocked at some of the people that I am asked to help. They get sent to me 2-3 months behind in all their current responsibilities and are trying to buy a house. It's not called Credit Magic and What kind of person tries to buy a house when they obviously can't hadle a simple monthly credit card payment..... it's just an example of why this economy is failing. However.... Credit repair is not just for Bad credit. Given the market it may be difficult for someone with even a 700 to get a decent loan. They need in most cases..... rapid rescoring of their existing accounts and removal of unnessisary and illegall inquiries. There are many many aspects to credit repair. not disputing neggative items. If your dealing with a company who does JUST that than YES you are wasting your money.... Credit repair is much more complex than the bottom of the barrel industry sharks just out to make a quick buck.

  • Eugene, OR · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 0 votes
    17y

    Please excuse the typos, my key board is acting up and skipping letters..... Wierd, theirs no edit button and I type fast. :) Hope you got the just of it.

  • Real Estate Investor · the villages, FL · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    17y

    Is it still raining in Eugene. It was raining the day I left and figured it still is raining. You had some good info to those needing it. I wish I could qualify, then I wouldn't have to pay cash for all my properties.

  • Eugene, OR · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 0 votes
    17y

    It is raining, but it's washing the bird poop off my car so I'm okay with it. :)

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    17y

    Due to the poor economy, many birds have been evicted from their homes so the mess on the cars is much more common these days. Thank God for all the rain (free car wash) in Oregon!

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    17y

    We are not so lucky in So Cal. Lack of rain here is a problem.

  • Eugene, OR · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 0 votes
    17y

    My house faces a huge wetlands reserve. I get to overlook the water and wild geese all day from my office. The back of our house faces a large pond. The birds fly back and forth. The poop... is no laughing matter. The rain helps. :)

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