Hello, Bigger Pockets!!
It is with great joy that I announce that my wife, Piper, and I have closed on our first rental property! We bought a 2/1 in OH and have the property management company in place to get it rented ASAP. We also used a service to establish an LLC to own the property and I would love anyone's advice who has already accomplished the task of transferring ownership in preparation for proper tax filings next year. I would like to avoid any pitfalls, speed bumps, and hurdles that I can, or at least prepare myself properly for them in order to navigate them successfully if they cannot be avoided.
Thank you all for your experience, we are looking forward to hearing from you!
Michael and Piper Holmes (Newbies!!)
Congratulations!
Here is a list of items to consider when transferring a title of rental property from individuals to an LLC (and I would advise consulting a good attorney with local knowledge, especially your first time if you are not a legal expert):
Finally, while this list covers several points, it is not exhaustive, and the complexity of the real estate and tax laws means there may be other issues and considerations. Thus, consulting with a real estate attorney and possibly a tax advisor (depending on the attorney’s depth and scope of knowledge) is recommended to understand all potential legal and financial implications before making such a transfer.
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@Pichael Miper Holmes congrats on the new purchase! I just finished going through this same process putting a rental (former primary) under an LLC.
I would connect your lawyer that drafted LLC operating agreement for you and ask them to file a quit claim deed with the county. They will need copy of deed from title company and county property is located in.
After you have done that, be sure details have been communicated with insurance (add LLC as additionally insured).
Also if you have not already, make sure you have separate business checking account for all transactions.
We just recently recorded a webinar called, should I put my house hack into an LLC. Even though this is not a house hack, there is still info in there you can apply to your business. Happy to send the details.
Congratulations!
Here is a list of items to consider when transferring a title of rental property from individuals to an LLC (and I would advise consulting a good attorney with local knowledge, especially your first time if you are not a legal expert):
Finally, while this list covers several points, it is not exhaustive, and the complexity of the real estate and tax laws means there may be other issues and considerations. Thus, consulting with a real estate attorney and possibly a tax advisor (depending on the attorney’s depth and scope of knowledge) is recommended to understand all potential legal and financial implications before making such a transfer.
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Thank you, @Todd Hoffman and @Ben Einspahr!
That was where my thinking was, and you both clarified the steps for us. This community is fantastic.
Glad you found it helpful. There were a few assumptions I made that were not stated in that post.
I assumed that you and your spouse own the property together and you file income taxes jointly, and that the LLC is a disregarded entity (essentially, the IRS sees a "disregarded entity" as not separate from its owner(s) for tax purposes, even though it might be legally separate from the owner(s). On an IRS 1040 Tax return, a disregarded entity income filing is usually in Schedule C as opposed to a separate income tax filing for the business).
If you (and your spouse) are transferring ownership to an LLC, and the LLC is not a disregarded entity for you and your spouse, or there are other ownership differences, there may be additional considerations. There could be gifting tax considerations and/or capital gains considerations, and potentially other tax considerations.
More reasons to research thoroughly and/or consult experts before acting.
Note: Even if an LLC is disregarded for federal income tax purposes and you don't file separate IRS income tax filings for the LLC (i.e., in your personal IRS filing Schedule C), the LLC may still be required to file separate state tax returns, employment tax returns, or information returns like Form 1099, depending on the circumstances.
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Congratulations!
Here is a list of items to consider when transferring a title of rental property from individuals to an LLC (and I would advise consulting a good attorney with local knowledge, especially your first time if you are not a legal expert):
Finally, while this list covers several points, it is not exhaustive, and the complexity of the real estate and tax laws means there may be other issues and considerations. Thus, consulting with a real estate attorney and possibly a tax advisor (depending on the attorney’s depth and scope of knowledge) is recommended to understand all potential legal and financial implications before making such a transfer.
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Great post. What advice do you have as far as avoiding the "Due-on-sale" clause common with many lenders that don't like the property being deeded to an LLC when the LLC wasn't used to qualify for the loan?
@Scott DuVall, your question about avoiding the "due-on-sale" clause when transferring a rental property title to a disregarded LLC is a good one. If possible, the best approach would be to set up the LLC before purchasing the property, thus avoiding the issue altogether. However, if that's not an option, navigating this situation can be complex and nuanced.
I am not aware of any silver bullets to avoid the Due-on-sale clause. I would welcome a legal expert's advice on this.
To the extent possible, negotiate with your lender or noteholder to allow the transfer. Keep in mind that getting their written consent is crucial to avoid any future complications. Some lenders may be reluctant to allow this transfer as they prefer to have the borrowers still on the title for ease of loan resale.
If you can't secure the lender's permission, there are several factors you should consider, though this list isn't exhaustive:
· Refinance:
o What are the costs and interest rates of a new loan with the LLC as the titleholder?
o Can you refinance the loan through a line of credit or by using other assets as collateral?
o Is there a prepayment penalty on the current loan?
· Likelihood of the loan will be called due if you transfer without written consent:
o Has the loan been sold, or will it be sold in the future?
o Have the interest rates increased, or are they likely to increase? Lenders may be more inclined to call the loan due if they can re-lend the money at higher rates.
o Noteholder’s past behavior and plans. And keep in mind that the Noteholder could sell the loan, and it is hard to know what a future Noteholder may do.
o Consider the noteholder's situation. For example, banks with liquidity issues might be more likely to call the loan due.
· Other impacts of violating the loan agreements:
o Transferring the property without the lender's permission may breach your loan agreement, which could have legal consequences beyond just the acceleration of the loan.
· Evaluate your personal situation:
o Are there any upcoming life events (like selling another property with significant equity) that might make loan acceleration manageable?
o Again, prepayment penalties may play a role
· No Transfer:
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If you don’t do
the transfer, what are the risks and costs, and can they be mitigated?
Remember, trying to avoid the due-on-sale clause without the lender's consent can lead to significant risks, including potential foreclosure if you're unable to repay the loan in full once it's called due.
I highly recommend researching thoroughly and/or consulting experts before acting.
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