Lifestyle Design Flip

Lifestyle Design Flip

Douglas LarsonPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes

Many inspiration gurus and success authors like to talk about "lifestyle design" these days. You've probably also heard that real estate investing, with its eight essential vitamins and minerals, can be an important part of this philosophy.

When I was younger, single and had less common sense, my real estate investing/lifestyle design formula was not well-planned. This business model included 100% mortgages and house-hacking-flipping five properties on the island of Maui. It was great having roommates and tenants pay my expensive mortgages, so that I had a little more time for important things like surfing, exploring jungles, cliff-jumping and scuba diving. Now that I am mostly a grown-up, including the family responsibilities of a wife and three kids, I am a little more risk-averse. My goals and dreams of adventure have also been tempered a bit. Still, my wife and I look for opportunities to have real estate be the enabling tool for a flexible and fun lifestyle.

I currently live in Utah and the market is tight, but there are plenty of opportunities to flip homes, wholesale properties and also accumulate cash-flowing rentals. Last year, I was getting some pretty bad cabin fever after a typical cold Utah winter. I was missing my homeland of San Diego, where I was born and raised. I decided my family needed a change of scenery and latitude! So, I contacted a real estate agent in San Diego and we located a property to flip. The San Diego market is a little different than where I live in Utah. Homes are half the size and twice the price! Great deals are few and far between and cash-flowing rentals are as scarce as Trump supporters.

We finally found a good property by looking up expired listings in the North County coastal area.  My agent made contact with about 10 sellers whose listings had expired in the previous six months. Some had simply decided to take their houses off the market, but a few were still interested in selling. The most motivated seller was a guy in his late 70s who rented out part of his house to some very delinquent tenants. They were really taking advantage of this nice, old guy and he just didn't know what to do. My agent, negotiated an offer with the seller. It was 352k, including his commission. This awesome RE agent, who is former military (and about 6' 3") then informed the squatters (posing as tenants) that they had a 30-day notice to vacate or be removed. He then, under my direction, gave them an offer of $1,000 if they could be out in two weeks or less. They were out in 15 days and were happy to take the cash as they drove away in their U-haul. The 77-year-old seller was also delighted, and when we closed in late May of last year he thanked us repeatedly as he drove away to Florida to be closer to his extended family.

The summer was spent managing subcontractors and doing many small projects. It was a full cosmetic renovation that cost about $45K. While directing tile-setters, painters, handymen, plumbers and flooring installers, my family lived in the home (more like camping really) and made frequent trips to the beach for surf and sea breezes. We bought an unlimited family pass to Legoland and also hit every other attraction or theme park within a 2 hour drive! The remodel took two and a half months and sold within three weeks of listing for $474k. After remodeling expenses, commissions, concessions, financing costs, and of course, after adding in the mileage and per diem deductions allowed by our accountant, the "net" gain was about 20K. The word "net" is in quotes because there are some really cool things you can write off on a two and a half month business trip! Without those write-offs, the gain would've been much closer to $40k.

In all, it was an adventure-filled summer with lots of great (and a few not-so-great) family memories. It was totally worth it for a lifestyle design experiment, but I think this year I will flip one extra property in Utah and just take three weeks off to lie in a hammock ... on the beach ... on Maui. 

See some After & Before photos below:

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Steger, IL · Member since 2016 · 57 posts · 13 votes
9y

@   I own transportation company. Not buying anything, I just have a nice transportation broker that I work with time to time. Also doing business in Puyallup, WA.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Carlisle, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 543 votes
    9y

    @Douglas Larson, looks great.  Congrats!

  • Ogden, UT · Member since 2013 · 266 posts · 51 votes
    9y

    looks great, I haven't seen you in a while, now I know what you've been up to.

  • Douglas LarsonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y

    Yep, @Mike Gallagher

    Always something going on. What are you up to!?!

    This was just one of the more fun ones.  Most of my flips and rehab rentals are pretty ordinary. I do have a big one closing next week that should make for a good story. I will also try to post some of the less dramatic successes from the last few months. I think people like to see what to expect with an average, bread and butter deal.

  • Professional · Provo, UT · Member since 2015 · 26 posts · 2 votes
    9y
    This was a cool read! Thanks for posting!! What kind of success have you had calling on expired listings in the Utah market? Are you making the calls or do you have an agent do that for you with parameters set up by you?
  • Rental Property Investor · Lehi, UT · Member since 2015 · 195 posts · 133 votes
    9y

    Very nice remodel.  It looks like you doubled the size of the bathroom, or is that just the angle it was taken at?

  • Douglas LarsonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Jordan Burke:

    This was a cool read! Thanks for posting!!

    What kind of success have you had calling on expired listings in the Utah market? Are you making the calls or do you have an agent do that for you with parameters set up by you?

    I will be honest. In Utah, I don't usually have to look too hard for deals. They seem to find me. I've got a pretty good network of wholsalers, short-sale negotiators, agents and investor friends. I get 5-7 emails each week about properties for sale.  I do my research and make offers on a few each month. I'm as busy as I want to be but spring/summer tends to get pretty competitive every year. San Diego County is tough to find a good spread for flipping but there are value plays in every market. 

    In any market, it would be smart to track and contact sellers of expired listings. You may well find an unhappy landlord, an estate seller with too much going on or some other motivated seller. Make offers and see what sticks!

  • Investor · Rochester, WA · Member since 2013 · 221 posts · 30 votes
    9y

    Cool adventure bet the kids loved it. Nice job!

  • Douglas LarsonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Rebecca Belnap:

    Very nice remodel.  It looks like you doubled the size of the bathroom, or is that just the angle it was taken at?

     Thanks Rebecca. We did take about 36" from an adjoining closet so we could make  a true "master bath."... and the professional photography with wide-angle camera lens also helped!

  • Douglas LarsonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Matthew Murphy:

    Cool adventure bet the kids loved it. Nice job!

     Thanks Mathew. My 9-year old and 6-year old boys had a great time exploring my favorite spots in San Diego. They complained a bit with the small work projects and tasks we gave them. Everything from removing painters tape to pulling weeds in the yard. They were paid for their work though, and by the end of summer they had enough to buy hoverboards! I'd like to think that overall it was a great family bonding experience. I hope they remember it that way. My wife says we should do a flip in Florida this year!

  • Real Estate Agent · San Diego, CA · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    Nice work.  Thanks for posting.

  • Douglas LarsonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y

    thanks @J.R. St Julien

    ... and if you see any great deals with enough equity for a flip, please drop me a note!

    What area of San Diego do you work in?

  • Real Estate Agent · San Diego, CA · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    Sure will PM you.

  • Steger, IL · Member since 2016 · 57 posts · 13 votes
    9y

    Such a great story. I love Maui and live in San Diego and doing my business in Utah))

  • Lender · San Diego, CA · Member since 2011 · 664 posts · 231 votes
    9y

    You know what I love about your story is that you don't live here but made it work here. I hear all too often from local investors how they can't find a deal which is BS. The deals are here.

  • Investor · Champaign-Urbana, IL · Member since 2014 · 84 posts · 49 votes
    9y

    That's a great looking rehab.  I love the fact you turned a vacation into a 2.5 month business trip.  Very creative and I'm certain it'll leave a lasting impression on your children.

  • Douglas LarsonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Yanis P.:

    Such a great story. I love Maui and live in San Diego and doing my business in Utah))

    Thanks @Yanis P. You say you are doing business in Utah? What are you buying/selling/renting in the Behive State?

  • Steger, IL · Member since 2016 · 57 posts · 13 votes
    9y

    @   I own transportation company. Not buying anything, I just have a nice transportation broker that I work with time to time. Also doing business in Puyallup, WA.

  • Bountiful, UT · Member since 2016 · 112 posts · 52 votes
    9y

    @Douglas Larson

    LOVE that bathroom! Job well done sir! I'd like to get a break from the rain we've been getting in SLC. Hopefully you're missing out on it up there in PC! 

    Aaron

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    Rental Property Investor · Salt Lake City UT San Diego CA Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 410 posts · 337 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Bruce May:

    You know what I love about your story is that you don't live here but made it work here. I hear all too often from local investors how they can't find a deal which is BS. The deals are here.

    Too True! Thanks Bruce. I always tell investors that if you think "there are no deals," you aren't doing the right things to find or create deals. Networking with agents and wholesalers is the most effective type of "finding" right now for my business model. Some people send letters, Some people make offers only on MLS peoperties and some do auctions. All of these can work but whining and standing on the sidelines never does.

  • Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2015 · 160 posts · 76 votes
    9y

    Nice story Douglas!  Not really a vacation but an experience I'm sure you're family won't ever forget.

  • Real Estate Agent · Camarillo, CA · Member since 2017 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    Loved the story and that it turned out great. I used to live in Oceanside and had a rental property there that I sold in 2015. Now looking to find something to flip or something to buy and rent out that will get me a decent return :)

  • Investor · Mission Viejo, CA · Member since 2016 · 36 posts · 20 votes
    9y

    Awesome post, I admire your work ethic and creativity @Douglas Larson!

    I lived in San Diego for 6 years, beautiful place.

  • Kevin FoxPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 635 votes
    9y

    Hey @Douglas Larson

    What an awesome way to spend the summer!

    Congrats on a great flip and thanks for sharing the story with us.

     Keep up the awesome work!

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