Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Crash? Well, Property Always Goes Up , Doesn't it?

Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Crash? Well, Property Always Goes Up , Doesn't it?

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From CoreLogic

CoreLogic, a reputable real estate analytics firm, isn't just pulling these predictions out of thin air. Their Market Risk Indicator report takes into account a bunch of different factors


A Closer Look at the 5 Cities:

Let's take a closer look at each of the five cities identified by CoreLogic: None are CA, TX, OH or TN

  1. Provo-Orem, UT: This area saw significant price increases during the pandemic, but things are starting to shift. According to Realtor.com, the median list price in Provo last month was $566,375, down 1.4% from a year ago. Even so, it's still up a whopping 38% from January 2020. This suggests that the market may be correcting after a period of unsustainable growth. High growth leads to high declines!
  2. Tucson, AZ: Tucson is another market that experienced rapid price appreciation. List prices in January were down almost 2% from the previous year.
  3. Albuquerque, NM: This city has seen similar trends to Provo and Tucson. While still relatively affordable compared to other Sun Belt markets, Albuquerque's housing market is showing signs of slowing down. I have also noticed that in the desert regions like Albuquerque, the lack of rains can make it extremely difficult to do construction in time and within budget leading to inventory problems.
  4. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ: Phoenix was one of the hottest housing markets in the country during the pandemic. However, it's now facing a significant correction. Increased inventory and cooling demand are putting downward pressure on prices.
  5. West Palm Beach-Boca Raton-Delray Beach, FL: South Florida saw a huge influx of people during the pandemic, driving up prices. But the area is also vulnerable to rising insurance costs and other factors that could dampen demand. List prices were down a notable 10% from a year earlier in Palm Beach County, indicating a significant shift in the market.

The Future Outlook

While the CoreLogic report highlights the risk of price declines in certain cities, the overall outlook for the national housing market is still relatively positive. Most experts believe that home prices will continue to grow, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years.

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  • Member since 2022 · 13 posts · 1 vote
    1y

    I wonder by how much are the Phoenix homes going to decline. 

    • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Robert Drummond:

      I wonder by how much are the Phoenix homes going to decline. 

      Wall Street Journal said they think prices are about 35% above what is sustainable. But when you look at the TSMC computer chip factories and other high tech companies moving into the area, it's anybody’s guess. 

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    1y
    Quote from @Ken M.:

    From CoreLogic

    CoreLogic, a reputable real estate analytics firm, isn't just pulling these predictions out of thin air. Their Market Risk Indicator report takes into account a bunch of different factors


    A Closer Look at the 5 Cities:

    Let's take a closer look at each of the five cities identified by CoreLogic: None are CA, TX, OH or TN

    1. Provo-Orem, UT: This area saw significant price increases during the pandemic, but things are starting to shift. According to Realtor.com, the median list price in Provo last month was $566,375, down 1.4% from a year ago. Even so, it's still up a whopping 38% from January 2020. This suggests that the market may be correcting after a period of unsustainable growth. High growth leads to high declines!
    2. Tucson, AZ: Tucson is another market that experienced rapid price appreciation. List prices in January were down almost 2% from the previous year.
    3. Albuquerque, NM: This city has seen similar trends to Provo and Tucson. While still relatively affordable compared to other Sun Belt markets, Albuquerque's housing market is showing signs of slowing down. I have also noticed that in the desert regions like Albuquerque, the lack of rains can make it extremely difficult to do construction in time and within budget leading to inventory problems.
    4. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ: Phoenix was one of the hottest housing markets in the country during the pandemic. However, it's now facing a significant correction. Increased inventory and cooling demand are putting downward pressure on prices.
    5. West Palm Beach-Boca Raton-Delray Beach, FL: South Florida saw a huge influx of people during the pandemic, driving up prices. But the area is also vulnerable to rising insurance costs and other factors that could dampen demand. List prices were down a notable 10% from a year earlier in Palm Beach County, indicating a significant shift in the market.

    The Future Outlook

    While the CoreLogic report highlights the risk of price declines in certain cities, the overall outlook for the national housing market is still relatively positive. Most experts believe that home prices will continue to grow, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years.


     We will see this in other markets as well, especially other areas of Texas and Florida where insurance and taxes have skyrocketed. I also believe California is going to start seeing some softening which I will get a lot of hate for, but pricing in certain areas is just not sustainable. 

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    • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:
      Quote from @Ken M.:

      From CoreLogic

      CoreLogic, a reputable real estate analytics firm, isn't just pulling these predictions out of thin air. Their Market Risk Indicator report takes into account a bunch of different factors


      A Closer Look at the 5 Cities:

      Let's take a closer look at each of the five cities identified by CoreLogic: None are CA, TX, OH or TN

      1. Provo-Orem, UT: This area saw significant price increases during the pandemic, but things are starting to shift. According to Realtor.com, the median list price in Provo last month was $566,375, down 1.4% from a year ago. Even so, it's still up a whopping 38% from January 2020. This suggests that the market may be correcting after a period of unsustainable growth. High growth leads to high declines!
      2. Tucson, AZ: Tucson is another market that experienced rapid price appreciation. List prices in January were down almost 2% from the previous year.
      3. Albuquerque, NM: This city has seen similar trends to Provo and Tucson. While still relatively affordable compared to other Sun Belt markets, Albuquerque's housing market is showing signs of slowing down. I have also noticed that in the desert regions like Albuquerque, the lack of rains can make it extremely difficult to do construction in time and within budget leading to inventory problems.
      4. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ: Phoenix was one of the hottest housing markets in the country during the pandemic. However, it's now facing a significant correction. Increased inventory and cooling demand are putting downward pressure on prices.
      5. West Palm Beach-Boca Raton-Delray Beach, FL: South Florida saw a huge influx of people during the pandemic, driving up prices. But the area is also vulnerable to rising insurance costs and other factors that could dampen demand. List prices were down a notable 10% from a year earlier in Palm Beach County, indicating a significant shift in the market.

      The Future Outlook

      While the CoreLogic report highlights the risk of price declines in certain cities, the overall outlook for the national housing market is still relatively positive. Most experts believe that home prices will continue to grow, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years.


       We will see this in other markets as well, especially other areas of Texas and Florida where insurance and taxes have skyrocketed. I also believe California is going to start seeing some softening which I will get a lot of hate for, but pricing in certain areas is just not sustainable. 

      Lol You'll hear from San Diego for sure. ;-)
  • Scituate, MA · Member since 2018 · 69 posts · 33 votes
    1y

    If the seller is motivated, you can find condos and some homes 20-30% off peak prices from a couple years ago in Scottsdale and the surrounding areas. 1 BR condos in North Scottsdale that I sold for $365k in 2022 can now be purchased for $300k. Increased rental competition from new multifamily and STR over saturation has made a lot of investors jump ship.

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