Purchasing my first home and plan to use it as a rental.

Purchasing my first home and plan to use it as a rental.

Investor · Wendell, NC · Member since 2014 · 189 posts · 54 votes

Hey guys, I'm fairly new to this forum but have found numerous good examples of rental suggestions and such. But let me give you my background. I just turned 20 years old, don't have a large down payment (Can get maybe 5 grand in a couple months, More when tax season hits), I have a full time job and a full time student.

My goal is to buy a first time house and use it as a rental to generate some extra income and hopefully buy more and go down that long chain of events. I was looking to put as little down as I possibly could, which I now realize is becoming impossible because it seem the lowest down is 20% for investment properties.

My first question is how do people obtain private loans, and would I be eligible for one?

My next question is if I purchase a $50,000 house in Raleigh, NC and plan on renting it out, well Zillow says my mortgage, insurance and property taxes would roughly be able $350 for a 15 year mortgage and estimated rent would be about $850 in that specific areas and generally rent is largely inflated around this area. Is this a realistic spread? I mean $500 a month profit is huge. I know you include 50% of this as matainance, but still $250 a month seems too good to be true to me.

I know my questions are a little vague, I’m still searching for some guidance along the way. I'm not worried about the approval, my credit is 700+, and however I am really interested in the lowest down possible.

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  • Investor · Columbus, MT · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Welcome to the site!   Awesome to see you are excited about this stuff.  I would encourage you to spent more time searching forums on the 50% rule as it seems you might want to get that down before you go much further.   

    Make sure that you know ALL of the numbers: vacancy rate, cap x, managment fee, ect. 

    If by "private loans" you mean owner financing, then I would suggest you search topics related to that...   With a good credit score just go to several banks and look into the loans that they have.

    Spend as much time as possible learning all that you can.   Listen to all 90 some podcasts and you will have a great grasp on the concepts talked about in realestate investing!  They are free and Sooooo helpful.  I have listened to them all 2 times through.  They are good. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Triangle Area, NC · Member since 2012 · 587 posts · 214 votes
    11y

    Hey Colton welcome to BiggerPockets! You've come to the right place to get answers to all of your real estate investing questions.

    Have you looked into owner-occupying a multifamily property? With that route you can use FHA with 3.5% down. If you're currently renting this could be a good way to live for nearly free while also building some equity. You can obtain a hard money loan but plan to pay about 12-15% interest. Most investors use the hard money and private money loans as temporary funding until they can refinance their property. Do you have much debt? The 700 credit score is great especially for someone so young.

  • Investor · Wendell, NC · Member since 2014 · 189 posts · 54 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Joshua D.:

    Welcome to the site!   Awesome to see you are excited about this stuff.  I would encourage you to spent more time searching forums on the 50% rule as it seems you might want to get that down before you go much further.   

    Make sure that you know ALL of the numbers: vacancy rate, cap x, managment fee, ect. 

    If by "private loans" you mean owner financing, then I would suggest you search topics related to that...   With a good credit score just go to several banks and look into the loans that they have.

    Spend as much time as possible learning all that you can.   Listen to all 90 some podcasts and you will have a great grasp on the concepts talked about in realestate investing!  They are free and Sooooo helpful.  I have listened to them all 2 times through.  They are good. 

    Thanks, I am downloading these as I speak !

  • Investor · Wendell, NC · Member since 2014 · 189 posts · 54 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Michael Jobe:

    Hey Colton welcome to BiggerPockets! You've come to the right place to get answers to all of your real estate investing questions.

    Have you looked into owner-occupying a multifamily property? With that route you can use FHA with 3.5% down. If you're currently renting this could be a good way to live for nearly free while also building some equity. You can obtain a hard money loan but plan to pay about 12-15% interest. Most investors use the hard money and private money loans as temporary funding until they can refinance their property. Do you have much debt? The 700 credit score is great especially for someone so young.

    I have looked into an owner occupying property and still am considering it however my girlfriend doesnt quite feel comfortable with this because currently I live with my father and just pay the cable bill and she's living in school dorms an hour away. As for debt, I dont have much.  Have about $4,500 in student loans that arent due till 2017. And I just financed a car for 17,500. My currently income is about 45,000 before taxes and monthly bills are about $500. 

  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    Have you considered buying a primary residence that needs some work, living in it and fixing it up at the same time?  Then, when it's ready, you can rent it out and move on to your next project.  This is one way to get around the down payment issue, and it will be an issue to not have 20% as an investor. As a primary residence, you can put down as little as 3.5% or even 0% if you find a home that qualifies for USDA. 

  • Investor · Wendell, NC · Member since 2014 · 189 posts · 54 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Dawn Brenengen:

    Have you considered buying a primary residence that needs some work, living in it and fixing it up at the same time?  Then, when it's ready, you can rent it out and move on to your next project.  This is one way to get around the down payment issue, and it will be an issue to not have 20% as an investor. As a primary residence, you can put down as little as 3.5% or even 0% if you find a home that qualifies for USDA. 

    Thanks for your reply, I had considered that but do I have to live in this residence for 12 months before I can do any renting out? 

  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Colton S. It depends on the lender, but generally, you do not. 

  • Investor · Wendell, NC · Member since 2014 · 189 posts · 54 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Dawn Brenengen:

    @Colton S. It depends on the lender, but generally, you do not. 

    Let's say I purchase a home through a credit union as a "first time buyer." I can live there as my primary residence for a couple months then move on and rent it out?

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Colton S. 

    If you buy it as a first time home buyer MOST places require you to live there for 12 months otherwise it is mortgage fraud. If they don't require 12 months triple check, I have operated in many different states and they are all 12 months. What about buying  single family home and renting out the rooms? This doesn't violate the laws. You get a low downpayment, everyone else pays your mortgage and than in a year you can move out and legally rent the house. My husband works a transient job so we have been able to turn personals into rentals.

    Getting started young is painful. Whether you start as a birddog, wholesalers, fixer, etc. While real estate is amazing once you get into it, and way down the road. But no ones story in the beginning is "easy".

    My husband and I started the very way you are describing. We bought a foreclosure using our VA loan. Once we had fixed it up and gutted it we moved out. Before we bought our first house, our first year of marriage we lived with another couple to save expenses and pay for my grad school. That allowed us to saved 20 grand which let us buy a dump and later a pure investment. We have never bought a "awesome" house but great investment (ask me where my pool is located or the house in my favorite neighborhood or 3 car garage, or or or ). On the other hand we own 5 houses and have another 3 in the works.

    You and your girlfriend will need to decide what is important, With no money down, it is uncomfortable, sweaty, dirty and requires sacrifice, On the other hand, it is VERY meaning and produce awesome returns.

    This is from someone living in a "hovel" in order to save up for our next house. Read @JMartin post about sacrifice to get where he is real estate wise!

  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Colton S. mentioned. Certain loan programs definitely do (like VA), but most conventional mortgages do not. I have had five primary residence mortgages, and not a single one had the requirement that I live there for year, just that I intend to occupy the house myself.

    Also, for the right house, I wouldn't let the year requirement that might exist stop you. Spend that year fixing it up and saving money for your next deal!

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Dawn Brenengen  PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL!!!! I advise everyone and anyone who is not going to live in there house for less than one year or not at all to speak to a lawyer. I can tell you from personal experience that MOST personal properties require one year EVEN conventional 5%. We had to leave earlier due to military orders and had to get special permission. If you don't complete a year it is mortgage fraud. While it won't matter till it matters if  found guilty it can me jail time, fines or the loss privilege of having a 30 year loan!!!!

  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Elizabeth Colegrove I definitely agree that people shouldn't get their end all be all advice from internet strangers, so yes, please verify that whatever loan YOU get does not have the requirement that you live there for a year (unless you are going to live there for a year). 

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Dawn Brenengen  full agreement :) 

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