Selling intended rental with partners and 1031 possibility

Selling intended rental with partners and 1031 possibility

Investor · Tallahassee, FL · Member since 2014 · 3 posts · 1 vote

Hi Bigger Pockets Community!

Hoping you can offer some advice: My husband and I partnered on a house with another couple to rehab it and rent it out.That was the intention, anyway. The guy from other couple abruptly lost his job (through no fault of his own, was a political play) and was offered a replacement job (though making $40K less!) 2 hours away, so he is out of the picture and the wife is waiting to get a job in that town and move as well. They are looking to recoup their costs so we will be putting it up for sale and that will be the end of that partnership. This is the first time my husband and I have partnered with anyone, and we don’t want to complicate the paperwork and sale, but are interested in knowing:

1) How you could prove intent to use as rental (other than advertisements, meeting with prospective tenants, etc.); how would you report this “intent” to the IRS? Is there a field on a form to complete, or does intent just have to be proven in case of audit? I thought I read somewhere that they automatically disallow holdings of 1 year or less, otherwise everyone would try to claim intent to avoid capital gains taxes. This is our first house sale other than primary residence.

2) Could a 1031 exchange even be possible for our side of the transaction? We split the expenses to fix it up, and we will be splitting the proceeds from the sale. Conveniently the house next door is up for sale at a great price and my husband and I are looking to purchase it after it comes out of probate to use as a rental, so they are like kind, and I understand the 45 and 180 day rule and need for a QI. We estimate each couple would make ~$30K. Would it even be possible to try to separate our potential $30K share within the sale documents for 1031 with this other property?

Thanks so much for your input and suggestions, we really appreciate it!!!!!

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  • Natalie KolodijBusiness Member
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    Tax Strategist| National Tax Educator| Accepting New Clients · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    I would be shocked if this was allowed for a 1031 

    Otherwise every flipper would just list it for rent for a few weeks and say oh we intended to! 

    It literally wasn't a rental at all..you didn't hold it for any length of time really....

    @Dave Foster can chime in but I think you're just going to have to sell and move on. 

  • Dave FosterBusiness Member
    Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    9y

    @Misty Alderman, Well you've got an uphill battle in some ways because intent is a very fluid thing to prove.  And as @Natalie Kolodij said, your biggest hurdle is establishing your intent or every flipper would be doing them.  Without rent you're left with trying to reconcile your past practice with the current circumstances.  If you've had a practice of buying and holding and you could show some notes or point to some conversations with the couple that indicated the same and then could document the life changes then sure, you could show that your intent was to hold and an accident had happened.  There is no pre-disclosure of intent.  Doing the exchange implies that your intent was to hold.  You will only need to provide documentation in the event of an audit.  I always caution the sharper folks out there that accidents like your situation can happen to anyone.  But when the same accident happens 7 or 8 times in a year that's telling a different story.  And of course by the time it's audited if it's audited you would also have the post facto evidence of your actual use of the new property.  But of course your intent is always going to be accepted or rejected by a field agent who may be having a good day or a bad day.  It all depends

    As tenants in common you have the option of separating your interests in a 1031.  You could do a 1031 on your portion and they could take the cash and pay the tax.  Or you could each do your own 1031.

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