Rookie looking for advice on a flip deal in NJ

Rookie looking for advice on a flip deal in NJ

Erik KuhiPro Member
Investor · Farmingdale, NJ · Member since 2017 · 63 posts · 39 votes
I came across a property on homepath.com that was damaged by Super Storm Sandy. The home is in desperate need of rehabbing and most likely needs to be raised due to FEMA guidelines put in place after the storm. Just looking on zillow I see the surrounding homes are valued around $120000 and this property is listed at $24900. My thought is rather than dealing with raising and rehabbing I would knock it down and put a raised modular home in its place. I have yet to do an in depth investigation into the costs but off the top of my head I'm thinking if the cost of the property and having the modular home put on the property cost around $100000 that it could potentially sell for $150000. The town is Keansburg NJ which doesnt have the greatest reputation but is by the bay and has a popular amusement area. I do believe the town is made up of many hard working people and that my idea will offer 1 of those people a nice new home they can be proud of. I think $150000 would be an affordable price point in this area. Please let me know your thoughts on if this idea is worth pursuing or if I have the #s wrong. All thoughts and suggestions more than welcome. Thank you, Erik
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  • Investor · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Erik Kuhi Lets do some quick math and use your numbers and assume they are correct.

    House tear down permits utility tap in fees etc... $10,000. ??? Just guessing

    Purchase price $20,000

    Build Modular $100,000. Does that include driveway paving, landscaping, sidewalks etc..

    cost to buy hold and sell including taxes and realtor commissions, interest on loans for 8 months, utilities, insurance etc... $15,000.

    Potential profit $5,000. Unless you really know the market and you think this is a slam dunk I would be careful. $5000 profit  is not enough margin IMO to do this deal. Best you tighten up your numbers and be sure of all your costs. On the surface I would walk from this deal.

  • Erik KuhiPro Member
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    Investor · Farmingdale, NJ · Member since 2017 · 63 posts · 39 votes
    9y
    @ Alex Deacon thank you very much for your response. As simple as it now seems there were a few #s I had not yet considered which was the realtor fees and cost of loans. I lost $45000 on the deal already. Ha ha! With your input the #s would definitely need to tighten up to even consider the deal. $5000 is not worth the risk. I do think I will still reach out to some of the modular home companies in the area to see if they can give my a cost. I saw 1 advertise that they will take care of all the property preparations including permits and all. If they come back at a favorable rate I will consider pursuing the deal. My hopes would be to purchase the property at $20000 and put around $80000 into it. Anything much higher than that probably isn't worth the effort. I'd like to make $25000 - $50000 on the deal to make it worthwhile. Thanks again and if I move forward I will update this post with whatever comes out of it.
  • Erik KuhiPro Member
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    Investor · Farmingdale, NJ · Member since 2017 · 63 posts · 39 votes
    9y
    Here is the property https://www.homepath.com/listing/8-woodland-ave-keansburg-nj-07734-46320441
  • Kuba F.Pro Member
    Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 694 votes
    9y
    Erik Kuhi Alex Deacon was right that your numbers are definitely too low. What modular house company were you looking at?
  • Erik KuhiPro Member
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    Investor · Farmingdale, NJ · Member since 2017 · 63 posts · 39 votes
    9y
    1 of the big players in the area is SICA Modular Homes. http://sicahomes.com/?redirect=false I think they've been doing a ton of these after the storm a few years ago. As far as the #s I did a quick google search on the cost of modular homes and saw roughly $76 per sq ft. I rounded that up to $80 and figure a 1000 sq ft home. The current house is listed at 800 sq ft. I know I missed a few of the costs Alex mentioned in his reply but is the research I did off as well? Thanks for the info. This is a good learning experience just getting input off this idea. Even if it's a dud this helps me be better prepared while searching potential deals.
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