Is seller ( owner ) financing is ILLEGAL with existing mortgage ?

Is seller ( owner ) financing is ILLEGAL with existing mortgage ?

Engineer · Douglasville, GA · Member since 2016 · 90 posts · 31 votes

Hey community, Is owner financing is illegal with a existing mortgage ? Example , if a house worth say $200k and seller has mortgage balance remaining for $50k . is it illegal to sell that property with seller financing ? i know it can be done through "subject to" or wrap around mortgage but IS IT ILLEGAL ? because one seller says he talked to a attorney and he said its illegal. i wanna get clear on that. This is help all new investors.

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Investor · Bayside, NY · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
9y

The problem is the existing mortgage lender holds the first lien position. Any other mortgages on top of that is in the second position. And most people don't realize banks don't hold on to their mortgages, but sell it, as they need money to do more mortgages. What you'll wind up with is a second mortgage, and I believe you're going for a first. 

Nothing is illegal unless it's done under the table. But what is the bank going to do stuck with the mortgage that they can't sell.

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  • Buy and Hold Investor · Knoxville, TN · Member since 2013 · 450 posts · 270 votes
    9y

    @Tan Mehedi

    I don't think it's necessarily illegal, but the lender of the $50k note wouldn't be very happy about it and could call the loan due if they find out. It all depends on the lender though. They might be OK with it as long as it is disclosed and the deed doesn't change hands, as is the case in a land contract. I have a lender who has told me I can do that on some houses I own that they loaned on as long as I don't transfer the deed. 

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    Rental Property Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    @Tan Mehedi

    You should definitely look at the mortgage paperwork from the seller and see if the lender allows it.

  • Investor · Bayside, NY · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    The problem is the existing mortgage lender holds the first lien position. Any other mortgages on top of that is in the second position. And most people don't realize banks don't hold on to their mortgages, but sell it, as they need money to do more mortgages. What you'll wind up with is a second mortgage, and I believe you're going for a first. 

    Nothing is illegal unless it's done under the table. But what is the bank going to do stuck with the mortgage that they can't sell.

  • Specialist · Delran, NJ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 951 votes
    9y

    It is not illegal. You will not be jailed for it. Where you may run into problems is whether or not the contract governing the terms of the mortgage is being violated by the sale and if the bank decides they want to enforce the "due on sale" clause due to that violation.

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