Wife concerned rentals will prevent purchasing our home...

Wife concerned rentals will prevent purchasing our home...

Realtor · Mililani, HI · Member since 2017 · 107 posts · 47 votes

Can you guys please chime in? My wife is concerned that my goal of purchasing one home per year over the next few years will prevent us from buying our own home (currently renters) in a couple of years when we move back home. My thought is that we have the VA loan available so we can purchase with zero down when we do move home and that positive cash flowing assets will not look bad to a loan officer. She is of course concerned that all of our money will be gone (it won't but we have the VA zero down loan anyways) and even if we still have savings, no one will want to give us a loan because of our LTV/DTI.

I'm trying to weigh and compare having say 3 performing investment properties in two years and then applying for a VA loan vs buying our primary residence with 20% down then trying to invest with a HELOC. I think I know where I stand but want to get her as much information as possible.

Another obstacle I won't go too far in to is that my mother-in-law is trying to convince us to buy a rental back home in Hawaii that will negative cashflow. She is a broker (not an investor) and just wants her daughter to have some sort of obligation to come home. That's all about that :)


Any advice is appreciated. Mahalo!

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Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Derek Okahashi:

Can you guys please chime in? My wife is concerned that my goal of purchasing one home per year over the next few years will prevent us from buying our own home (currently renters) in a couple of years when we move back home. My thought is that we have the VA loan available so we can purchase with zero down when we do move home and that positive cash flowing assets will not look bad to a loan officer. She is of course concerned that all of our money will be gone (it won't but we have the VA zero down loan anyways) and even if we still have savings, no one will want to give us a loan because of our LTV/DTI.

I'm trying to weigh and compare having say 3 performing investment properties in two years and then applying for a VA loan vs buying our primary residence with 20% down then trying to invest with a HELOC. I think I know where I stand but want to get her as much information as possible.

Another obstacle I won't go too far in to is that my mother-in-law is trying to convince us to buy a rental back home in Hawaii that will negative cashflow. She is a broker (not an investor) and just wants her daughter to have some sort of obligation to come home. That's all about that :)


Any advice is appreciated. Mahalo!

Hi Derek,

Cashflow positive real estate will help your ability to qualify for a primary residence mortgage, not hinder, assuming an REI-friendly lender, and that you maintain adequate PITI reserves (if you have healthy retirement accounts, that'll typically do it).

So that Hawaii property could in fact hinder your ability to qualify for a primary residence mortgage. Having investment properties but no "oh crap!" fund could also hinder you.

If you're maxing out your 401ks and buying cashflow positive real estate, I wouldn't worry. 

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  • Investor · PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 602 votes
    9y

    Believe most banks will count 75% of  the income from the rental towards income so you will want to rent the home for at least 1.25x of the total mortgage payment. They will also usually ask for 2 yrs of returns to verify the income. You will also want about 6 months of PITIA reserves set up for each rental in order to qualify for a residential mortgage. You will also want to keep the total number of residential mortgages under 10 in order to qualify for another residential mortgage (some banks limit it to 4).

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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Derek Okahashi:

    Can you guys please chime in? My wife is concerned that my goal of purchasing one home per year over the next few years will prevent us from buying our own home (currently renters) in a couple of years when we move back home. My thought is that we have the VA loan available so we can purchase with zero down when we do move home and that positive cash flowing assets will not look bad to a loan officer. She is of course concerned that all of our money will be gone (it won't but we have the VA zero down loan anyways) and even if we still have savings, no one will want to give us a loan because of our LTV/DTI.

    I'm trying to weigh and compare having say 3 performing investment properties in two years and then applying for a VA loan vs buying our primary residence with 20% down then trying to invest with a HELOC. I think I know where I stand but want to get her as much information as possible.

    Another obstacle I won't go too far in to is that my mother-in-law is trying to convince us to buy a rental back home in Hawaii that will negative cashflow. She is a broker (not an investor) and just wants her daughter to have some sort of obligation to come home. That's all about that :)


    Any advice is appreciated. Mahalo!

    Hi Derek,

    Cashflow positive real estate will help your ability to qualify for a primary residence mortgage, not hinder, assuming an REI-friendly lender, and that you maintain adequate PITI reserves (if you have healthy retirement accounts, that'll typically do it).

    So that Hawaii property could in fact hinder your ability to qualify for a primary residence mortgage. Having investment properties but no "oh crap!" fund could also hinder you.

    If you're maxing out your 401ks and buying cashflow positive real estate, I wouldn't worry. 

  • Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 310 posts · 271 votes
    9y

    Can you just do both by buying a house with an ADU, or a 2-3-4-plex? Use your VA loan AND have your rentals?

  • Investor · Portland, OR · Member since 2016 · 213 posts · 60 votes
    9y

    @Derek Okahashi save as much money as you can and purchase the largest muti family you can. Make sure it cash flows and just buy your house with the VA loan when you are ready.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Paia, HI · Member since 2016 · 479 posts · 311 votes
    9y

    Don't buy a property in Hawaii that doesn't cash flow! 

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