25 year roof or 30 year roof

25 year roof or 30 year roof

Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes

I'm starting a remodel of a SFR and want advice on the roof. The roofing will completely be redone but I am not sure what shingles i should use. The 25 year ones are about 400 dollars cheaper. This is a fix and flip. Would buyers be less interested if i used the 25 year shingle ? or should i just go with the lifetime 30 year one. It'll be a completely new roof either way so i'm debating. Of course i always like the cheaper material.

Any feedback ?

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Lender · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2018 · 703 posts · 446 votes
7y

They will never know,  I would just buy a shingle that looks like the rest of the neighborhood.  I think your overthinking.  I honestly doubt someone is going to pull up to the house and go  "Honey can't buy this one, thats not a 30year shingles" They are going to go "Wow luck honey a new roof, just think we don't have to buy a new roof for years"

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  • Lender · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2018 · 703 posts · 446 votes
    7y

    They are the same shingles.  Shingle warranties are the biggest joke in the world its a pro rated warranty and by year 25 coverage is like next to nothing.

    Do the 25 year and save some money

  • Specialist · Paradise Valley, AZ · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Maugno M.:

    I'm starting a remodel of a SFR and want advice on the roof. The roofing will completely be redone but I am not sure what shingles i should use. The 25 year ones are about 400 dollars cheaper. This is a fix and flip. Would buyers be less interested if i used the 25 year shingle ? or should i just go with the lifetime 30 year one. It'll be a completely new roof either way so i'm debating. Of course i always like the cheaper material.

    Any feedback ?

     It's a marketing difference. Same shingles.

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    @Tim Johnson @Account Closed So you all dont think this will turn off potential buyers? Theyll see a new roof thats what i think but might be picky and say ahh but its not the 30

  • Lender · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2018 · 703 posts · 446 votes
    7y

    They will never know,  I would just buy a shingle that looks like the rest of the neighborhood.  I think your overthinking.  I honestly doubt someone is going to pull up to the house and go  "Honey can't buy this one, thats not a 30year shingles" They are going to go "Wow luck honey a new roof, just think we don't have to buy a new roof for years"

  • Specialist · Paradise Valley, AZ · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Maugno M.:

    @Tim Johnson @Account Closed So you all dont think this will turn off potential buyers? Theyll see a new roof thats what i think but might be picky and say ahh but its not the 30

     Lenders require that a roof have a 5 year life remaining. Borrowers don't know the difference between what a lender requires and a "guarantee" on a package of roofing shingles. If you make it a big deal, it becomes a big deal. It's like saying "I had to spray the house because there were swarms of dead roaches all over the place". Don't sell what it used to be, sell what it is now and their hopes and dreams of owning a home. Play contractor if you care to but don't involve them in that part. They just want to develop dreams of what it will be like living there.

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    @tim 

    @Tim Johnson @Account Closedundefined Love love love that advise. You def right im over thinking it. 

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    @Account Closed One question, that doesnt have anything to do appraisal value ?

  • Specialist · Paradise Valley, AZ · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Maugno M.:

    @Account Closed @Tim Johnson One question, that doesnt have anything to do appraisal value ?

     No value added to appraisal on a 30 yr vs a 25 yr.

  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    are they the same shingles with different warranty, or is it the difference between 3-tab and architecturals. 

    if the shingles are physically the same, get the cheap ones. If it's $400 more for architecturals, I recommend you upgrade. 

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    @Alexander Felice Yes, they look different. its between 3tab and architecturals. My cousin is the one that is doing the roofing for me and he sent me pics. And boy did i really like how the 30 looked compared to the 25.

  • Real Estate Broker · Bay Area · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Maugno M.:

    @Alexander Felice Yes, they look different. its between 3tab and architecturals. My cousin is the one that is doing the roofing for me and he sent me pics. And boy did i really like how the 30 looked compared to the 25.

     30yr No brainer.  The $400 is worth the extra money for the curb appeal.

  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Frank Wong:
    Originally posted by @Maugno M.:

    @Alexander Felice Yes, they look different. its between 3tab and architecturals. My cousin is the one that is doing the roofing for me and he sent me pics. And boy did i really like how the 30 looked compared to the 25.

     30yr No brainer.  The $400 is worth the extra money for the curb appeal.

    THIS

    go with the 30yr, no brainer like Frank said 

  • Real Estate Agent · Cupertino, CA · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    If there difference is just $400 put where you get the bang for the buck.


  • Lender · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2018 · 703 posts · 446 votes
    7y

    Have you cousin look into IKO they are about the same price as 3 tabs.  I personally like 3 tabs but thats me.

    If he was quoting certianteed they are the about the most expensive architecturals

    Figure out some more details on the shingle, lots of different brands.  I can buy architecturals for the same price as 3 tabs, just have to find the cheaper brand

  • Investor · FL · Member since 2017 · 266 posts · 220 votes
    7y

    @Maugno M.

    The only ones i would make decision on is 3-dimensional vs 3 tab.

    Warranties are bs.

    See the neighborhood. Moment i see a 3tab i choose that. Some roofs dont have enough pitch for 3 dimensional which I would only use anywaus if i cant get away with 3 tab due to the area/comps.

  • Member since 2018 · 64 posts · 45 votes
    7y
    @Maugno M. I just installed a colored metal roof, 40 year 'warranty'. Well worth the money, lack of maintenance, marketing and piece of mind. I don't have to touch it for 20 years. Basic maintenance, replace screws and caulking at 20 years. I have 3 buildings, 2 SFR and 1 duplex, all now have metal roof. I would put the metal roof up against regular shingles any day and any year....
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y
    @Maugno M. In Sunriver OR, 40 year is required. If you look at shingles theres a definite distinction between grades.
  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    I use architectural grade shingles.  Which are more expensive.  Basically, they have more bitumen and probably thicker paper.  

    A good roof is more than just this.  It is proper installation, drainage, flashing, underlayment, gutters, etc..  It is a system.  

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    Thanks guys i'll keep you all updated. If the 30 year looks better, ill do that. if they look the same, ima go with the cheaper option. Making decision by Saturday and ill post.

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    THe one next door has a 25 year roof

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    and the one across the street has 30 year archtecturals. I wonder if the archtecturals come in 25year ?

  • Flipper / Landlord · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    or is the color what I am attracted too?  that charcoal black looks way better.

  • Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Ignore the years, go with the style. The architectural vs. 3-tab is like granite vs. laminate counters cosmetically. The guarantee is useless, usually only covers the depreciated value of the shingle materials (not labor, the bulk of the cost of a new roof), and requires everything be installed per their instructions which are usually overkill in comparison to how installations are normally done. Spend the $400 just for the cosmetic value. 

  • Investor · Eugene, OR · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 35 votes
    7y

    If I recall correctly 3/12 -5/12 roofs should have a three tab roof, if it is a 5/12 or above you can use an architectural shingle.  Depending on your roof slope, you might have to go with a 25 year. 

  • Accountant · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Maugno M.

    In TX and the southeast you can go ahead and subtract 5-10 years off whatever they're advertised at to arrive at the real life.

    Agree with @Tim Johnson.  If this is a flip, match the look of what's in the neighborhood at the best available price to you.  99% of buyers aren't going to ask detailed questions about the shingles.

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