How to find a partner when all you can bring is the capital

How to find a partner when all you can bring is the capital

Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2018 · 30 posts · 15 votes

What is the best way to find an experienced parter to work with? We are currently LP in a large syndication but want to explore partnering with people on smaller deals so we can actual learn more. The only thing we can bring to the table is capital. We are currently stationed in South Korea with the Army and wont be back for a minute so there really isnt much value other then saved capital. What is the best way to start looking for partners? We are debating doing another syndication and locking the money up for 12-18 months, but also want to learn more and be able to jump into small multifamily once we get back. 

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Real Estate Agent · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
7y

@Jacob Morris you do not need a partner. You need an investor friendly agent and a property manager.

Find the right team and they will find you cash flow investments and you will be a passive investor.

A professional agent and really good PM are going to work better than a partner because you can fire them if they don’t do a good job.

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  • Lee RipmaPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Prairie Village, KS · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris

    Do you have a target market upon your return? Or maybe a few target markets? If you network with folks in those markets you might be able to find the right person to partner with. You bring the capital and learn, they oversee the projects as the boots on the ground.

  • Matthew Irish-JonesBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris you do not need a partner. You need an investor friendly agent and a property manager.

    Find the right team and they will find you cash flow investments and you will be a passive investor.

    A professional agent and really good PM are going to work better than a partner because you can fire them if they don’t do a good job.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Springfield, MO · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 890 votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris I agree with everyone above...networking within your local market is a good strategy. I also agree with @Matthew Irish-Jones, if you haven't read "Long-Distance Real Estate Investing" by David Greene you should put it on the top of your list. He discusses a lot of systems and methods to make it work. I even bought a 10-unit last year while stationed OCONUS with his strategies!

    Also, you could try networking where you're stationed, you would be surprised how many military rei guys/gals there are. I have a friend stationed where you are that owns over 20 houses right now!

  • Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Hi Jacob,

    As guys wrote, get in touch with people and talk to them. I started this way. Your ideas will develop as time goes and it will be easier and easier. 

    Then suddenly you'll know what to do and who partner with.

  • Matthew Irish-JonesBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @David Pere the best kind of partners are ones you can fire if they don't do a good job LOL. 

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  • Investor · Parker, CO · Member since 2016 · 550 posts · 389 votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris Another option is become a private money lender for someone who is doing flips. You can get fairly good returns through mortgage notes / promissory notes and can get creative with being a debt partner or equity partner. Or, like others have said, build a team (or use an existing team from someone you can trust) and start buying rental property. 

  • Realtor · McLean, VA · Member since 2009 · 184 posts · 80 votes
    7y

    Why smaller deals? I agree with finding partners in your target market but disagree with going it alone. There is more risk in relying solely on a PM to manage the asset. 

    If you can bring the capital there are many syndicators that will bring you in on the GP. 

  • Investor · Front Royal, VA · Member since 2013 · 586 posts · 418 votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris hey @Elijah Vo sounds familiar? Maybe you can give some advice?

  • Lee RipmaPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Prairie Village, KS · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Matthew Irish-Jones

    I think it depends on the scope of the rehab, it can be hard to find a PM to oversee a contractor on a major rehab. However, I know exactly what you mean about not being able to fire a partner! Finding a PM who can competently oversee major construction is great, I haven’t found one who can in my market yet.

  • Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2014 · 59 posts · 51 votes
    7y

    @Luke Miller, yes South Korea sounds very familiar since I was stationed there years ago, lol!  

    @Jacob Morris, if I have it right, it looks like you're into several things (loans, rental properties, LP on syndications), but you want to focus on being a syndicator/sponsor, correct?  If so, I know how you feel being geographically separated but wanting to get moving...I was the same way in Korea in Kuwait ; )

    Anyways, IMO you can look at this two ways...you can go small or big, but you have to ask yourself if you want a big cut of a small deal or a small cut of a big deal. You may not realize it yet, but you'll actually put in the same amount of work syndicating both kinds of deals. But the choice will be a personal preference.  

    I personally think partnering is critical in this industry, if you're looking to grow/scale.  Very, very difficult to scale otherwise.  Just make sure you find a trustworthy partner who complements your skillset.  

    Since you're looking to syndicate, you can research the different investment groups and see which one you fit into the best.  Investing groups are good because you can tap into their network, experience, etc. and partner (or not) with people you know and trust.  Personally, I chose Think Multifamily.  They are ran by Mark and @Tamiel Kenney out of Dallas, TX and I have had lots success with them.  Don't get me wrong, there are other groups out there, but these are who I recommend.

    If you want, you can ping me to discuss my experience more.   

    Until then, good luck my friend!

  • Rental Property Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 969 votes
    7y

    There are many forum posts that list out reputable sponsors with which you can invest. Your best bet is to go to their website and try to set up a 1-on-1 call to learn more about them and their business. 

    If you're goal is to learn as a passive investor, it is definitely possible, but you won't have much day-to-day involvement in the deal, as I am sure you are well aware of since you're currently an investor in a deal. You can, however, ask questions along the way, as long as you are sending a bunch of questions every day.

  • Rental Property Investor · Weehawken, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 704 votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris

    Truthfully, it's going to be tough. The distance, timezone issues, and general comparative advantage nature of investment make it hard to do and learn everything.

    I completely understand the impulse. For years I wanted to find partners and run my own rehabs, but I think I would need to work 48 hours a day to do that. Living in NYC mine as well be like living in another country. The dynamics in this market are nothing like the people I like to invest with.

    One option is to settle into the passive role for a few years, and enjoy your time in Korea. I also think that truly passive investors are rare enough that many of the syndication sponsors want to work with them. Especially to have them help to raise money. 

    Take me for instance: Because I am unlikely to start my own syndication, I am fairly reliable as a fundraising partner. Many of the other people on this forum want to be in the syndication and deal-provision driver's seat. The rarer bird on this forum is the investor who has chosen to be on the finance side, almost exclusively.

  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2017 · 37 posts · 41 votes
    7y

    I would say if you get some time in the US, the best thing to do would be go to some meetup groups near your home and meet some folks that have projects going. I'm not sure I'd trust someone with my money if I hadn't met them in person. The other option as stated above would be to build a remote team (realtor, property manager, etc) and start putting offers in on properties remotely. 

  • John FortesPro Member
    Multi-Family Syndicator · Abington, MA · Member since 2017 · 603 posts · 347 votes
    7y

    Thank you for your service @Jacob Morris!

    Since you are already invested as a LP have you tried reaching out to the sponsor and asking questions?

    If your considering another investment, you should line it up with when you will be more local if you are going to invest in the opportunity. That way when you are back and you have your capital back, you can start to work on the opportunities you seek.

  • Real Estate Syndicator · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 907 votes
    7y

    Find a syndication that is willing to teach you the process.  Most GP's are more than willing to walk their LP's through the process, if they desire to.  That is what we are doing for our LP's.

  • Multifamily Syndicator · Conifer, CO · Member since 2018 · 80 posts · 84 votes
    7y

    @Jacob Morris

    Smart man!

    I'm a Vet too appreciate your service!

    A few tips to help you get started -

    *Bringing Capital to the table is just as important as finding the deal

    *Know thy partners - there are people out there looking for people that have money to invest or have a network of people looking for investments

    *Learn the business - Being part of a syndicating team is a great way to learn.  If you have a network of investors they can let in on the GP side and through the issuer exemption you can raise equity for your deals.  This is a great way to learn and you'll also be doing other jobs for the team in addition to investor relations. 

    *Be patient 

    This allows you to add value to an existing group and it's also a great way to learn as you go!

    I hope this was helpful.

    Don't hesitate to reach out-

    Dino

  • Property Manager · Wisconsin and Florida · Member since 2017 · 346 posts · 227 votes
    7y

    That's a dream partnership for me. You bring the capital and I bring the knowledge. All of our funds are tied up in assets currently so capital has been the most difficult part for me. 

  • Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2018 · 30 posts · 15 votes
    7y

    Thank you for all the replies and different opinions. What I find most interesting is all the different paths that are mentioned and different ways to approach this. Just to update we are planning to start  by partnering with a flipper to get more exerience and knowledge of rehabs and looking at RE from that angle. We plan to continue to re invest the principle from those deals over and over  to only lock up a small amount of money and keep open to investing options back in the states that might happen while we are over here in korea enjoying what the army throws at us next. 

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