Buying cheap real estate in rural communities as first property

Buying cheap real estate in rural communities as first property

Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 1 vote
Hi all, 

This is my first posting here, go easy ;)

I'm 21, a Computer Science dropout. I am making $60/hr as a 1099 infrastructure engineer. I might convert my hourly rate to a 90k/year salary as a w-2 employee shortly. I work remotely, but I live in Corvallis, OR, where I was going to school. I want to figure out an investment plan, whether that is to snowball my way into real estate or to invest in high-growth mutual funds. I'm not sure yet.

The cost of living in Corvallis is pretty high. I have a 2 bedroom apartment at $1064/mo (with the second bedroom as an office to write off as a business expense). I want to lower that as much as I can so I can direct ~70% of my take-home pay into investments. I could do real estate, which would take more learning but provide passive income if I'm smart about it, or I could play the safe route and put everything into mutual funds and retire early when the market goes up over the next 20 years. I'd have around $5k/mo cash coming as salary, with hourly it depends; its usually around 10k pre-tax.

I want to save as much as possible, so that would mean reducing my monthly expenses. I come from an area in Oregon where a decent house without major repairs could come around 100-120k, but a fixer-upper could be maybe $50k if I snag a good deal (I think? I'm really new to this). The rent in these areas is around 800-1200 for a 3bd 1ba house.

I'm really contemplating buying a $50k fixer-upper in the area to lower my costs. I figure I could pay off a house like that in 4 years if I bum rush it, which my income could allow me to do (I'm cheap). By 25 years old, I could save for a down payment and closing costs within 6 months for a decent rental (assuming I save 4k/mo on salary).

My worry about this is I would live in a rural area with lower rent prices and low family income, meaning I might have to spend extra in repairs and a decent chunk of the cash flow would go towards paying for repairs. But, I think this would be the best way to supercharge my savings rates to allow me to take more risk without going under if something goes wrong.

Do you guys invest in LCOL/ low rent areas? Is it ever worth it? The towns I'm looking at don't usually appreciate much because there is no development in the area. They of course do appreciate, but I think most of the ROI would come from rental cash flow.

My biggest holdup is if I stay where I am, I won't be able to buy at a very fast rate, and the market is very competitive because Corvallis has the only 'good' tech/engineering programs in the state, and is growing fairly quickly.


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Rental Property Investor · Philomath, OR · Member since 2016 · 21 posts · 10 votes
6y

It is great to see some local folks who are active on BP. The Corvallis market is tough and almost never cash flows at this point ... take a close look at current vacancy rates as well. The recent development rush has brought more units to the market and is outstripping demand. Philomath currently has several significant apartment developments happening as well. 

I own several properties in the area but find if extremely difficult right now. Money is cheap, prices are high, and off market deals are difficult to find right now in the area. If you want to find your way into some of the more remote towns like Monroe or out toward the coast in Eddyville or Toledo you may have better luck.

Your situation sounds like it would be ripe for a house hack scenario ... search for a duplex or four plex to help the numbers get closer to working. You'll have to hunt hard and be willing to purchase something old that needs work but, with some sacrifice and elbow grease you can get started.

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  • Developer · Portland, OR · Member since 2014 · 732 posts · 490 votes
    6y

    @Hunter Lannon

    Corvallis seems to be a solid place to invest, and you can’t beat local knowledge.

  • Rental Property Investor · Saitama, Saitama Prefecture · Member since 2019 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    6y

    Hey @Account Closed! Congrats on first post! ;)
    I'm from the Corvallis area myself. I understand its a nice but very competitive area. It would be difficult to find a deal that has a nice cash flow.

    I notice a lot of people who live in competitive and expense markets will do house hacking to lower rent and sometimes it does not require a large down payment. That might be a good possibility for you.

    What towns are you considering in investing in other than Corvallis? Something like Albany or Philomath?

  • Rental Property Investor · Philomath, OR · Member since 2016 · 21 posts · 10 votes
    6y

    It is great to see some local folks who are active on BP. The Corvallis market is tough and almost never cash flows at this point ... take a close look at current vacancy rates as well. The recent development rush has brought more units to the market and is outstripping demand. Philomath currently has several significant apartment developments happening as well. 

    I own several properties in the area but find if extremely difficult right now. Money is cheap, prices are high, and off market deals are difficult to find right now in the area. If you want to find your way into some of the more remote towns like Monroe or out toward the coast in Eddyville or Toledo you may have better luck.

    Your situation sounds like it would be ripe for a house hack scenario ... search for a duplex or four plex to help the numbers get closer to working. You'll have to hunt hard and be willing to purchase something old that needs work but, with some sacrifice and elbow grease you can get started.

  • Realtor · Coos Bay, OR · Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    Hey all! I want to chime in here also! I am a real estate broker and my husband and I are licensed contractors here in town as well. We live here in Corvallis. I sell homes from Winston to Salem and coastal regions too. I worked in travel nursing for years, and we're natives, so we know Oregon well. If there is anything we can help you with, by all means, contact us. We would love to meet like minded individuals in the area as most of our sphere is in the Roseburg area. Meed us for coffee sometime.Pick our brains. We'd love to help you begin your investment process. 

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    Real Estate Agent · Wake Forest NC · Member since 2017 · 40 posts · 26 votes
    6y

    Hello from Toledo Ohio!  I invest exclusively in low and mid cost of living markets in Toledo, my home town.  Most of my properties have been fixer-uppers and I bring them up to a level where they would pass a Section 8 inspection, rent Section 8, and make small upgrades annually.  My initial investment stake has increased by better than 40% (including equity) in the past 5 years. It is true that there is not much appreciation in my C class neighborhoods, but I am seeing neighborhood improvement, which brings and keeps better tenants. 

    Finally, (in for a penny, in for a pound) I earned my real estate license and I am part of a great property management team at Laplante Real Estate. 

    Cheryl

  • Salem, OR · Member since 2014 · 22 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    I'm currently looking into turn key stuff out of state. I can't find things that meet my criteria here anymore. I'm sure people still do, but the benefits of out of state markets are too good to miss out. If you find a good deal go get it. I recommend listening to a lot of podcasts. You can do it. 

  • Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    6y
    Originally posted by @Chad Matthews:

    It is great to see some local folks who are active on BP. The Corvallis market is tough and almost never cash flows at this point ... take a close look at current vacancy rates as well. The recent development rush has brought more units to the market and is outstripping demand. Philomath currently has several significant apartment developments happening as well. 

    I own several properties in the area but find if extremely difficult right now. Money is cheap, prices are high, and off market deals are difficult to find right now in the area. If you want to find your way into some of the more remote towns like Monroe or out toward the coast in Eddyville or Toledo you may have better luck.

    Your situation sounds like it would be ripe for a house hack scenario ... search for a duplex or four plex to help the numbers get closer to working. You'll have to hunt hard and be willing to purchase something old that needs work but, with some sacrifice and elbow grease you can get started.

    Your message seems to be the same with others in this thread. I am considering breaking my current lease and living with parents in Eastern Oregon (not bend, more like Imbler or Elgin lol). I have family in the area and the market over there is not developing but has a consistent population and demand for rentals. 

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