Advice for purchasing a property with a partner / family member

Advice for purchasing a property with a partner / family member

Rental Property Investor · Ridgefield, WA · Member since 2020 · 2 posts · 0 votes

Hi all - thank you for any advice in advance! I am new to the forums and have already learned so much from everyone's contributions.

Here is the situation
: My brother is eager to use his savings to invest in a house hack, but is unable to to do this on his own. He asked my husband and me to partner with him (yes, we understand risks of investing with family), and we are scratching our heads as how to best set it up.

A few details:


1. My brother has enough in savings for a downpayment, but is finishing up college and has no W-2 right now. He is ideally putting 10% down if he can do a primary mortgage loan. I would be co-signing with my brother for proof of income (is this possible?). I trust my brother and we plan on outlining & signing on the partnership in rich detail. This would be a house hack for him, where he would be living in one of the units/bedrooms of either a SFH or a multi-family.

2. My husband and I have experience with rental properties, so will be teaching him a lot as well as doing most of the work for the time being.

3. My husband and I would not be putting anything down to begin with (we just purchased another property), and are open to putting an equal amount into the house within the year (including interest), or something else to make the investment into the house equal (ie, rehab $ if we go the rehab route) for both parties.

4. We would like to help my brother out here, teach him about rental properties, but also want it to be appropriately equitable and financially advantageous for the both of us.

Our goal
: We would like to help my brother out here, teach him about rental properties, but also want it to be appropriately equitable and financially advantageous for the both of us.

A few of my questions:


1. Would we be able to purchase this house (if I co-sign) as a primary mortgage for my brother? (He would be living there, we would not be)

2. Since he wants to house hack this and ideally pay zero to little rent out of pocket because tenants would covering mortgage, what would be a fair equity split on the house if we both invest the same amount into it?

3. If we both put forth an equal investment (down payment), what is the process of “buy out” and how does this work? As in, if we want to buy him out/pay him back in a year or two so that the property is in our name…

4. I am sure I am not considering many things here, any insights into how to best do this as a partnership (with a hint of love to help my brother) would be greatly appreciated.

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  • Brandon RushPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Portland, CT · Member since 2019 · 761 posts · 849 votes
    5y

    Hey Hayley, 

    Very interesting post. Unless you are 100% transparent with your brother and you are open about each other's weaknesses and strengths I would not do it. If for any reason either of you cannot uphold your end of the bargain, will the other side be ok with it? Also, considering this is his first investment, who knows how he will react to it. He may hate it and want out right away. He may also love it and want to invest more. 

    Also, why is he unable to house hack on his own? Why can't he do it, lack of W2 employment, bad credit or etc? If he is only a year or two away from obtaining a house hack, then let him wait it out and invest when he can. 

    Last option I can think of is you both forming and LLC together. You would need an attorney to make sure everything agreed upon is official. This may present a nice balance of him living as if he were house hacking by limiting some his housing expenses while you may see some benefits such as rental income, loan paydown, and appreciation.

    I have a younger brother who I would love to get into real estate but would never invest with him as we have two completely different mindsets. In the end its all business and your money. Just because someone is family does not mean it makes it a better option.

    Not sure if that helped or made it more complicated but wising you and your brother the best.

    Good luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · Ridgefield, WA · Member since 2020 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    @Brandon Rush, thank you so much for your insight and great points/things for me to reconsider.  The only reason he isn't able to purchase his own at this time is lack of income.  It may be the best idea for him to wait it out and house hack on his own in a few years as you mentioned.  Thanks again! 

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2014 · 741 posts · 424 votes
    5y

    @Hayley Quint Just for a moment, ignore the fact that he is a brother. Would you choose a business partner who doesn't have a job, knows nothing about the task he is need to do (manage a property), when the steady future income of the business is uncertain (vacancy periods), and expenses are certain (insurance, property tax and mortgage payments.) The success of the asset, and your credit rating, depends on the soundness of the partners. Is this the person you would choose as a partner? 

    How about letting him be the tenant in your new acquisition? 

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