can you buy commercial property with no personal guarantee?

can you buy commercial property with no personal guarantee?

Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 0 votes

i want to buy a commercial duplex and put down 20%, do i have to put up my personal house as collateral or as a personal guarantee to get the mortgage?

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Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
5y

Ask for a non-recourse loan.  It'll be more expensive, but I'd recommend it 99% of the time.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2019 · 146 posts · 101 votes
    5y

    Technically you will be putting personal guarantee for duplex purchase. I have never seen bank go after someone personal house as well.   They would just take the investment most likely and stop at that.   You always just need to read the fine print and ask your lender professional.

  • Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    many years ago i bought a bar restaurant, and i had to sign a personal guarantee. I assumed they would go after my personal home if i could not make the payments.  The business failed and I somehow at the last moment was able to find a buyer, however i was terrified about ever getting back into the real estate market again as a result. Now years later, i want to buy a duplex (or two) and never want to risk losing my home (completely paid off).  I have money to put down on a commercial loan but was not sure how this works, and did not want to ask the lender...rather be informed before speaking with the lender as how i can best protect my personal assets.

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2019 · 146 posts · 101 votes
    5y

    @Ryan Skinner

    Only larger over million dollars can find lenders that will not make you do personal guarantee. It’s part of risk if you do the homework right it shouldn’t be an issue.

  • Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    so despite putting down 20% they can just liquidate my HOUSE?? what if i sign the lending docs under the LLC (so only the LLC is making the personal guarantee)? Can i transfer my personal home to a Trust or a separate LLC? I never want to wager my house again. Don't care about the money, just need a place to live if everything goes to hell, life is too unpredictable...

  • Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    I believe its called a qualified personal residence trust QPRT

  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    Ask for a non-recourse loan.  It'll be more expensive, but I'd recommend it 99% of the time.

  • Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    i was reading about that. My novice understanding is that that NR loan is an extremely rare option and unfamiliar to most conventional commercial lenders.  Hope I am wrong, and will ask.  Happier with a higher rate to limit that risk.  I would also be more aggressive in acquisitions knowing that if everything somehow unravels (no one can predict the future) I would still have a place to live (that took me a lifetime to acquire and payoff). 

  • Rental Property Investor · DeWitt, MI · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 11 votes
    5y

    A NR loan is not that rare. If you are investing with your Self Directed IRA/ROTH and are borrowing funds, you have to use a NR loan. There are several hard money lenders that will do NR loans.

  • Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    "hard money lenders" like the guys who will break your knee caps if you dont pay? (and have ridiculous rates) 

  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Ryan Skinner:

    i was reading about that. My novice understanding is that that NR loan is an extremely rare option and unfamiliar to most conventional commercial lenders.  

    Not at all - What they are is a higher interest rate and they're going to look at you a lot harder.

    Basically (in a lien-theory state), they're limited to what the house is worth if they have a trust deed and since you signed, may have a deficiency claim, but ask a KNOWLEDGEABLE commercial mort broker.

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