Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 0 votes
Hi everyone,
I'm an investor from California and am looking to purchase additional properties cash out of state. I am priced out of California and can't compete with cash buyers here. I'm looking for markets where I can purchase properties less than $100K. Do any of you have any recommendations of where to start? I've heard that Toledo OH is good (from members here), but wanted to learn about other markets. My primary goal is to have good cash flow and hold long term.
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
5y
100k can be fine or it can be not so good.
I have one little tidbit for OOS investors.. figure out the median price point of the area and invest at or slighty above. this will give you better area better schools better tenants.
So simple LOGIC will tell you that if the median for a given MSA is say 150k that a 75K house will be half of the median.. not in a great area does not have a great tenant pool to choose from and will be very difficult for the OOS
if the Median in the area is say 100k which it could be then 80 to 100k could work.. just dont go buying for half or less of median 90% of the time those are the worse neighborhoods and IMHO only appropriate for locals who self manage.
Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 90 posts · 73 votes
5y
@Ben Hosseinzadeh
Will you be refinancing said property anytime soon after cash purchase?
I don’t totally disagree with the statement you should invest near you. It is MUCH easier to be close to your rentals. My furthest away is 2 hours and it sucks. Mine that is that far is also under the $100k mark. It is also my most troublesome rental. Although it cash flows AWESOME. Not really worth the trouble.
Yes, eventually I would likely refi the expand my investment opportunities. I understand that long distance tenant management is troublesome. I own a couple of rentals in Palm Springs area which is about 1.5 hours away from me.
any feedback on hiring a good property management company to help with tenant management for long distance investing?
Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 90 posts · 73 votes
5y
@Ben Hosseinzadeh
Can’t help you there. I manage all my own.
I will tell you that it is extremely hard to find a bank to refinance a house that is under $100k. So not sure how soon you are going to be refinancing but just keep in mind that is an uphill battle. Going through it right now with mine.
Realtor · Maumee, OH · Member since 2015 · 491 posts · 722 votes
5y
@Ben Hosseinzadeh Don't listen to @Account Closed, he has a major conflict of interest here! All joking aside, Toledo is a great place to invest for <$100k. You can get C to B- class SFH all day here, as well as some C class duplexes. Toledo is a cash flow town, you will get some appreciation but not much, especially if you are in the C-C+ areas of town. Let me know if you have any local questions!
Architect · Memphis, TN · Member since 2020 · 259 posts · 144 votes
5y
I would definitely say out of state investments are totally fine under one condition. Investors like you MUST have an excellent property management team behind you. It’s a MUST. You want a property manager that can communicate and one that you can trust!
I'd do some research on cheap homes. The numbers on paper may look good, but you will have higher turnover and more problems.
If you are investing in an area you aren't familiar with, make sure you have a good realtor to find a good area and property manager to get good tenants.
Investor · Malakoff, TX · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
5y
The problem is OOS you can't compete with locals on the ground who are intimately familiar with the market, tenant base, contractors, Realtors, and may even self manage.
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
5y
100k can be fine or it can be not so good.
I have one little tidbit for OOS investors.. figure out the median price point of the area and invest at or slighty above. this will give you better area better schools better tenants.
So simple LOGIC will tell you that if the median for a given MSA is say 150k that a 75K house will be half of the median.. not in a great area does not have a great tenant pool to choose from and will be very difficult for the OOS
if the Median in the area is say 100k which it could be then 80 to 100k could work.. just dont go buying for half or less of median 90% of the time those are the worse neighborhoods and IMHO only appropriate for locals who self manage.