Title seasoning

Title seasoning

Residential Real Estate Broker · Grand Blanc, MI · Member since 2008 · 885 posts · 316 votes

I recently bought a HUD house to flip. I bought it in my own name and will quit claim deed it over to my s-corp. I've been doing it this way lately becuase HUD doesn't seem too interested in selling their properties to investors who buy in the name of their companies. It's really weird - if you submit the same bid without a company name, yet still being declared as an investor, they're more apt to take the bid. I don't get it, but that's what I roll with...

In the past it was never a big deal to QCD the property to my s-corp after the initial deed was recorded since I was reselling them on land contract. For this house I know I won't be offering a land contract. That being said, the title will need to have 90 days of seasoning, but in which name? I'm assuming the name of my company since that will be the seller.

My issue is that the County takes FOREVER to record deeds when there's a transfer tax to be paid before recording. Since it was a HUD the closing company would not let me hand deliver the transfer tax check, then record the deed. The County treasurer is about 4 weeks behind with accepting transfer tax payments. :roll: That holds up the process of the original deed being recorded, and ultimately when I can record the QCD. I completed the QCD and had it notarized the day after I bought the property. Just hasn't been recorded.

So, when it does get recorded, the seasoning start from 90 days of the date on the QCD or 90 days from when it was recorded? My flip will likely be completed before the QCD can even be recorded.

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  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Grand Blanc, MI · Member since 2008 · 885 posts · 316 votes
    16y

    Bump... Anyone know the answer to this?

  • Title Representative · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2009 · 62 posts · 24 votes
    16y

    Hi Mark,

    Most states start the clock from the recording date of the prior deed. Not the news you wanted, but that is the common case.

    As for your deed, I understand the title company not releasing it for risk/liability reasons. But did they at least agree to put as much attention to as they possibly could? Such as federal expressing the documents? Following up regularly to see if this particular recording/transfer can be pushed to the top of the list? Also, I know that most counties process these on the spot when they walk them thru. Could they have had their examiner walk them thru, or a closer, or an employee? I have utilized these options for our buyers to help expedite the transfer and recording process. Also, I have contacted the clerks, sent it to one county clerk and told them to expect the buyer to come thru to process it. Sometimes that works.

    I know this is all in retrospect, but hopefully it will give you some ideas on your future purchases. PS. We have Ohio, Michigan, PA offices that cover that region. Feel free to add me as a colleague and ask for input anytime!

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Grand Blanc, MI · Member since 2008 · 885 posts · 316 votes
    16y

    Thanks for the detailed reply, Jamie.

    The deed and transfer funds were hand delivered by the title company the day following the closing. The title company is near the county offices so it's their practice to hand deliver them. Unfortunately, the title company will not call to "nudge" the County to accept the payment and forward the deed on to the Register for recording. Their services are quite limited since all of their transactions are from HUD houses. They don't have to go above and beyond to get repeat business.

    I'll just keep on calling the Treasurer every couple of days to check the status. I appreciate the insight. I have sent you a collegue request. Thanks!!

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