Private Investor Question?

Private Investor Question?

Investor · Lakewood, WA · Member since 2014 · 119 posts · 8 votes

Has anyone ever hear of a business called Phoenix FCE Capital Limited, they are suppose to be a private investor/Angel Investors. I got an email from them saying they can help me with 100% Financing, which sounded good. I was thinking of buying this one lead and figured an approximate 75% ARV on this one house, keeping the other 25% for a profit margin. Basically I tested the waters, they sent me an application via my email, very basic. I filled it out and sent it back asking for $175,000.00, you with me so far? I just got an email back from them saying I was approved for the $175,000.00 plus a 5% interest rate (btw, they said they will charge me 5% at the start, sorry forgot to mention that) which got me in a dather (confuse for some folks who don't understand) Here is my figures, see if I am wrong. $175,000.00 * 5% = $8750.00 which added in my total payout should be $183,750.00 They figured $175,000.00 with a 5% interest rate @$4,775.71 with a total payout of $179,775.71.

I don't mind the discount but there is something wrong here, I gave them my SSN, so if they did a credit check they would've known my FICO Score is 580, they did not ask for any property information, I was figuring an approximate value seeing that I did not get all the numbers in yet, but I figured an approximate value at $220,000.00 for the property with a 65% to a 75% Loan on the ARV which gives me some leeway and I got approved? Granted I have to pay the loan back within a year but I figured that, I asked for a year, figured I can do a fix and flip and sell the property before a year is up. They are even asking for monthly payments??? I could do that but I thought it would be the other way around, actually I figured once the loan got approved I close on the house, they give me an upfront draw to give to the contractor and a draw after each project was done until the job was finished. If the Hard Money Lender didn't do that I was going to do that myself, good way to keep a budget as well as keep the contractor honest, don't get the final payment until the job is done. Now does everyone see why I am confused?

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Dawn AnastasiPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
12y

I guess I would be concerned about someone getting your name, address, SSN, and copy of ID. Just giving someone those alone is like giving someone money up front because a scammer can sell that information.

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  • Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2013 · 97 posts · 32 votes
    11y

    Jeff we appreciate your input but do you have to be so harsh?

    Richard thank you for bringing this company to the Bigger Pockets community's attention so no one else falls for this scam. It does sound like you are relatively new and just a tad bit recluse with giving out your personal information. Next ask a lot more questions of anyone you look to do business with in the future.

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

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