How much to pay private lenders?

How much to pay private lenders?

Residential Real Estate Agent · Orange County, CA · Member since 2009 · 289 posts · 95 votes

Like the title says, how much do you pay your private lenders? I have seen that 8% - 15% seems like the average.

Now another question - is that 8-15% on the money they lend you or of your final profit?

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Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
16y

Chris,

You asked about private money lenders and not hard money lenders. All the answers you received are about hard money loans.
I rarely pay points on private money loans. Most deals get 10% or 12% interest based on the loan amount.

So in your example of a $100k loan, at 12% interest, yes, you would owe $1k a month. Typically, I have the loan contract to pay the principle and interest in one balloon payment, and not monthly interest payments, so at the end of the term, say 6 months on flips, I would pay the private investor $106k

For holds, I would structure the interest payments monthly.

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  • Financial Advisor · Tampa Area, FL · Member since 2008 · 956 posts · 214 votes
    16y
    Originally posted by Financexaminer:
    Originally posted by Josh Green:
    FWIW, the guy answered the phone with the name of a mortgage company. so it appears that he would be exempt.


    Josh, you tricked me! LOL You know that stuff gets me going, lol, I just hope you find some real private lenders you can do business with. Good Luck, Bill


    I walk a fine line in my job. I am a banker and deal with people that are complaining about their cd/mm/savings rates all day long. however, i am not allowed (company policy as well as a finra violation) to discuss anything other than bank/investment products with them. it's tough!
  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    16y

    Yes Josh, you're in a tough spot sometimes, holding to your responsibilities to the best interest of the bank. If your bank has a trust department, someone over there might be able to assist you in considering options for your customers. Good luck with that...Bill

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    16y
    Very true, but I would add to that by saying there is no need to pay more than necessary.
  • Financial Advisor · Tampa Area, FL · Member since 2008 · 956 posts · 214 votes
    16y
    Originally posted by Financexaminer:
    Yes Josh, you're in a tough spot sometimes, holding to your responsibilities to the best interest of the bank. If your bank has a trust department, someone over there might be able to assist you in considering options for your customers. Good luck with that...Bill


    i would like for their options to be a PML to me :lol:
  • Real Estate Investor · Hampton Roads, VA · Member since 2011 · 1 post · 0 votes
    14y

    So, is it possible to decrease an interest rate you agreed on with a PML? I feel so stupid, we've agreed to pay 15% and we are veteran home builders getting into the market again with foreclosures. How can we renegotiate?

  • Note Investor · Pasadena, CA · Member since 2009 · 849 posts · 544 votes
    14y

    You could, but at the risk of losing that PML.

    If anything, take your lumps on this deal, as you did agree to those terms, and when you go to your PML for the next deal, negotiate better terms (for yourself).

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